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Seaford Superintendent Responds to NRA Statement

National Rifle Association breaks weeklong silence on Newtown school shootings.

Seaford Schools Superintendent Brian Conboy responded to comments from the National Rifle Association Friday that armed guards should be present at every school in America in the wake of the Newton school shootings.

"It is a sad era in American history if this is what it will take to keep innocent children safe while at school," said Conboy. "Even a proposal as drastic as this one is not infallible and would not be guaranteed to prevent the horrible violence we saw in Newtown, Conn. More control over the distribution and possession of weapons coupled with better identification and care for the mentally ill will have a positive and longer lasting impact in my view."

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The NRA, the nation's largest pro-gun lobbying group said they were prepared to offer "meaningful contributions" to help ensure an incident like the mass killings never occur again.

"I call on Congress today to act immediately, to appropriate whatever is necessary to put armed police officers in every school — and to do it now, to make sure that blanket of safety is in place when our children return to school in January," Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierrea said Friday, breaking a weeklong silence by the gun organization.

Rep. Peter King, R-Seaford, disagreed with the NRA's position.

"Except in extremely rare cases, armed police are not the answer to school violence," he said. "What we must have are common sense guns laws such as banning assault weapons and ending the gun show loophole."

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This story was updated at 3:54 p.m. on Dec. 21.

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Thomas December 22, 2012 at 12:13 am
So we are willing to keep an armed guard in a bank to protect money but not willing to protect our children? The NRA's proposal is the first logical response that has been brought to the table. I respectfully agree with the NRA and I hope school officials will rethink their knee jerk reaction to not support this idea.
George W December 22, 2012 at 02:06 am
Just to touch on what Thomas posted, in NYC there are off duty police officers "moonlighting" for banks. Whats wrong with having off duty police, retired police or retired military vets guarding over our children. Also my wife is a NYC teacher and there is a non armed uniformed police officer stationed at the front door with a sing in book. This is typical in alot of other schools, but what are they going to do if some maniac walks through the door? Radio for help (if they even have a chance to)? How long will it take for some one to get there. In CT all those children and adults were shot in under 8 minutes. You think that a responding team will get there in less time?
Lorraine DeVita December 22, 2012 at 03:18 am
SO some retired old overweight excop standing at a door is going to do WHAT exactly Banks still get robbed,
shall i remind everyone of the infamous Seaford shoout out ? We lost one father and law enforcement officer to a gun shot from another retired trained ex police officer . One life destroyed another one life lost.. BOTH trained professionals. Guns at schools doors dont stop people from walking around back, shooting in a classroom window, guards at doors dont stop a gunman from driving aorund and taking pot shots .. Guards at doors protect doors not people ...HOw Stupid do you think people are if they see a guard at the front door they will walk aorund and find another access point.According to reports The mentaly ill person SHOT out the door to gain acess. THINK. what are you going to do have an armed guard every entry point , have an armed guard on the playground ? have an armed guard at drop off and dismissal. that should work well especialy at the harbor school access calamity. Before you all start clamoring for armed guards THINK Find a solution so your kids dont grow up in a culture where armed guards are at the school door .. We are better then that, we can come up with solutions that keep your kids safe without bringing MORE guns into this already messed up gun toting society. This isnt the wild west this isnt Afghanistan or Irag or Iran this is the USA.
Thomas December 22, 2012 at 03:33 am
Banks get robbed by perps who show up with little notes that say "give me money". They would never think of holding up a bank with a gun cause if they did they would be shot dead on the spot.
As for the Seaford shoot out you failed to remind everyone that the perp was also killed so perhaps some good will come out of that by reminding drug addicts that you never know who you are robbing and what good law abiding citizens are willing to do to stop evil in its path.
Follow the Money December 22, 2012 at 04:27 am
Perhaps if we weren't so leary of criminals and our government, we could ban all guns.
Follow the Money December 22, 2012 at 04:29 am
No matter what you do, banning guns, building fences or a moat filled with aligators, these things are going to happen any - unfortunately. You can't make sense of things that make no sense.
Unjust December 22, 2012 at 08:27 am
Thomas...hi...while the perp was killed too... It wasn't until AFTER the retired
Police Lt. jumped on top of the Federal Agent's BACK ...and Fired! (as stated in the DAs Confidential Memo) in my opinion that's a huge OOPPS....Shot the Fed .... Not the Drug addict...who spent almost 1/2 his life in jail & set free to commit the SAME type crimes!!! ( thats another whole topic) As far as anything good coming from it....maybe not yet. Just a few hours before Sandy hit LI ...a big chain store in N Wantagh was robbed. An ARMED Robbery...for DRUGS ...guess the addict didn't want to run out of pills during storm. As I posted on the sporting goods gun topic....No one knows how they will react with a gun in their hand...not even LEOs. There was another person at the crime scene with a Legal LOADED 9mm in hand...a Civilian & in split second he made the choice NOT to shoot...which I think showed Amazing SELF-CONTROL by civilian! I don't know if theres any way to keep the little ones & schools safe. Very sad... What a shame!
JG December 22, 2012 at 11:46 am
I agree with my Conboy on the issue of mental illness. The stigma must be dropped, and prescription anti-psychotic meds with a history of violent side effects need to be eliminated.Gun owners need to be responsible. Most are. I don't know how or where Ms. Lanza stored her weapons. Such a terrible tragedy.
I also agree with the gun show loop hole needing to end.
Andrew Coen (Editor) December 22, 2012 at 01:05 pm
@Hilarity Jones- Please refrain from personal attacks. Thank you.
Sandi December 22, 2012 at 01:22 pm
That's a key thought!!! Where did Ms. Lanza stored her weapon?. If all guns were stored properly under lock and key then the son would not have accessed these guns as eadily.. The thought he had of killing innocent children as in if he were playing a zombie game would have remained his sick fantasy.
Wayne Smith December 22, 2012 at 03:54 pm
With all respect due to the maelstrom of opinions about school safety now being offered by everyone from school superintendents, to politicians, to law enforcement professionals and to parents, here's a novel thought: we ought to make sure we're actually listening to the kids. In particular, to the extent that any kid is now going to school haunted by the images that came out of Newtown, the question is not just how we make sure that child is safe, but how do we make sure that same child FEELS safe?
Simple premise: it's pretty tough to learn if you're scared. Like most, I think the idea of armed police in school is a non-starter. On the other hand, I could imagine a student taking comfort in response to a more visible security profile, armed or not. The point is that all those in education or government who have been so anxious to register their opinons on this subject should also be prepared to listen.
Chris Wendt December 22, 2012 at 11:28 pm
I cannot remember or recall seeing an armed guard in a bank.
Using armed guards in schools as a solution is a specious argument intended to deflect legislative debate away from the topic of restoring the ban on military-style assault rifles. While there is an important "right" to keep and bear arms. that right does not extend to any and all kinds of firearms that may ever be invented.
Kevin B December 23, 2012 at 01:56 am
Let's see: An armed guard, a Berlin wall, that should eat up about half of the 5 million for Seaford Ave School. And after that is gone, we'll just raise taxes big time, and complain about it. If I am not mistaken, this guy broke a glass door after lockdown to gain entry. If it's not a door, it might be a window. Nothing is foolproof for some nut who wants to inflict harm upon anyone. This could go on and on, but the reality of it all is to get rid of assault weapons as a start. This will, if nothing else minimize damage done.
David Colbourn December 23, 2012 at 09:28 pm
This school administration is responsible for my kids safety. Personally I would neither confirm nor deny armed guards on site. This is a kid safety issue not a gun issue.
Chris December 26, 2012 at 03:57 pm
While the gun debate and prescription medicine debate goes on for the next few years in Congress our children need to be protected . NOW! I demand to know what plans are being considered by our schools to do just that. The fact is guns are out there. Violent psychopaths walk among us freely. What is Mr. Conboy prepared to do? Now.
old miller December 26, 2012 at 05:01 pm
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
The Second Amendment to The Constitution is pretty explicit here, if one reads it in the context of the overarching theme of The Bill of Rights. After the abysmal failure of The Articles of Confederation, our federal government was established. Fear of its ability to use its legislative powers, as well as the standing army, to enslave the masses, led to the adoption of the first ten amendments, a proactive document designed to protect the rights of the people against tyranny. Today, if we are to follow The Second Amendment, as it is written, it is pretty obvious to me, as well as to 4 out of 9 of the Supreme Court Justices, that no one has the individual right to own a firearm unless he or she is a member of a state militia.
old miller December 26, 2012 at 05:02 pm
It is the state's responsibility to: 1) ban all guns for the general citizenry 2) establish a state militia 3) create stringent regulations for joining the militia, including psychological profiling .) allow members of the militia to purchase, with their own money, two firearms from the militia's arsenal 5) establish strict guidelines for militia members concerning the storage, transport, and firing of weapons during times of peace, the violation of which will result in expulsion from the militia.
Ah, problem solved, and the kiddies get to keep playing Call of Duty and listening to heavy metal music.
VL December 26, 2012 at 05:07 pm
Chris, what would you suggest to be done?
Joe December 26, 2012 at 06:19 pm
Doors need to be secured, I know that sounds obvious, but is security really checking them. Security drills, practiced twice a school year. Security personnel monitoring via CCTV parking and entrances.
All actions are only as good as those following them, the problem comes in with compliancy and under qualified personnel. That’s a start as far as I see it.
Lorraine DeVita December 26, 2012 at 07:04 pm
"I would sort out all the arguments and see which belonged to fear and which to creativeness. Other things being equal, I would make the decision which had the larger number of creative reasons on its side."
- Katharine Butler Hathaway
Hilarity Jones December 27, 2012 at 12:57 am
So, Lorraine, a gigantic fence built around schools would be considered to be conjured from creativity rather than fear? These are your words from this string. Shall I flesh it out? Cut and paste? I, as wll as most others, can not and do not see your logic, your thought process, or where you come up with your comments. Your most recent proves that point. Can't wait to see what you will write next. Should be interesting. You post a quote that is completely contrary to what you have posted in the same string, and no one knows why. Please do tell.
Lorraine DeVita December 27, 2012 at 03:04 pm
the quote refers to decisions made out of fear should be tempered and weighed against & with creative decisions.IMHO -Gun toting guards vs other more creative, yet equaly as effective more sustainable solutions is a rather rash solution , a decision made which promotes and feeds the fear. While the fear is very real solutions to this dont need to be an armed guard at every door nor on the playground, sports fields, drop off and dismissal . We should look for solutions that are based on an assesment from experts in the security field. ascertain the weakness and develop a solution that is effective, sustainable , tactical & logisticaly logical.
one guy at a door or walking the perimeter with or without a gun will protect who, where, when and how. With what training, what guildelines for how long? IMHO Logisticaly speaking it is a "show" nothing more. You want something that is an unobtrusive effective deterrant and addresses the actual possibility of a threat. something that wont feed the fear of both the parents and the students. Again that is my opinion if you dont agree that is your perogative. So lets not make this personal and lets see what your suggestions would be. what solution(s) do you feel would be effective.
Joe concerned citizen...not the plumber December 28, 2012 at 12:34 am
I couldn't agree more with the NRA logic.."we protect our banks with armed guards. American airports, office buildings, power plants, courthouses — even sports stadiums — are all protected by armed security....We care about the President, so we protect him with armed Secret Service agents. Members of Congress work in offices surrounded by armed Capitol Police officers." .....but when it comes to our precious children we brag about the "Gun-Free School Zones" and even go as far as to post signs advertising them. Let continue remind the savages that they can walk into a school and its a vertually free for all shooting gallery....NO THANKS. WHY does the community get so worried to have trained personel who qualify with a fire arm in the schools...rest assure an ACTIVE SHOOTER will not be stopped by an unarmed "Security" gaurd.
Joe concerned citizen...not the plumber December 28, 2012 at 12:55 am
Also we train numerous times a year for a fire...how about ACTIVE SHOOTER scenarios..I bet half the people never even heard of such a thing.....we soften the term and say "Lock Down Drill" And Violent video games...how about parent take back the home and stop buying gun violence games for children and teens...read the various books from Col Dave Grossman (Ret US ARMY) he writes how theses games relate to all the School shootings to date. For the parents take a minute to see what active shooters are all about http://www.policeone.com/active-shooter/articles/5882617-Run-Hide-Fight-Video-shows-how-to-survive-a-shooting-attack/
Should we ban cell phones..because "11 teen deaths EVERY DAY – Ins. Institute for Hwy Safety Fatality Facts" (http://www.textinganddrivingsafety.com/texting-and-driving-stats/)...No we should educate and teach....Banning guns only affects the honest law abiding citizen...I never locked up a perp who had a legally issued hand gun God Protect Our Children
Joe concerned citizen...not the plumber December 28, 2012 at 01:07 am
How about better: security systems, better ID procedures for staff and visitors, better trainning and awareness for staff and parents as to signs of abnormal behavior as well as what to do if there is an active shooter situation, better locking down and sectioning off of building to limit the access of the shooter god forbid they get past the entrance. Lets have an open forum with the experts in this training and how staff and students should react and what they should expect for the first responders, because for those who havent seen the video in the above post.. the first responding police are not there to rescue anyone one but there to STOP THE IMEDIATE THREAT, THE SHOOTER(S)...then the rescue begins. EDUCATE EDUCATE EDUCATE.....like I mentioned read the books from Col Dave Grossman about schools shootings and video game violence, its a hard reality but it has made it to the EAST COAST UNFORTUNATLY!
Lorraine DeVita December 28, 2012 at 01:22 am
The deceased mother was a gun loving law abiding, registered, legally issued owner of the guns which were used to shoot/kill her, and 26 other victims. So how do you propose we keep guns out of the hands of mentaly ill people who LIVE with the law abiding citizens who like in this case allowed access and promoted use of HER guns by her mentaly ill son. Was she whacked out too? While the buyer of the gun may be metaly fit the OTHER people, family friends etc who have access may not be. How do you propose to regulate & control that? also how do you know the people who buy the guns legally are mentaly stable? There is to my knowledge no national registration or data base of firearms, no tests to insure the person is mentally sound,no restrictions as to the purpose of use, no registration or limit on ammo or clips , no limit on amount of gun owned. So basically if some metaly off the charts walks in fills out the appropriate paperwork &registers their gun legally you think its ok to let them have a gun?
& just where did all the illegal guns come from? Are they stolen from the manufacturer, shipped in from overseas? stolen out of homes, out of Police property, WHO is selling these illegal guns & WHERE are they getting them from? there are TOO many loop holes & NOT enough fail safes to allow any tom dick and harry to own a gun just becaseu they have a license. And if i am not mistaken in some states you do NOT need a lic. nor need to register a rifle or shotgun.
Joe concerned citizen...not the plumber December 28, 2012 at 01:49 am
If what they say is true, the mom was not a responsible gun owner at all. The guns should have been in a gun safe that the mentally ill son should have had NO access to, I know when I get home from work before i say hello to my family my gun gets locked away. Also how about the agencies that issue permits also do spot check to make sure you safe keep your guns, how about mandatory gun safety classes for all gun owners, how about qualifying course as I do every year to carry for my job...these are just a few ideas, not to mention a physcological test...all ideas. Felons and the mentally ill should not have guns. Perps steel guns, perps get straw buyers to buy them legally for them, perps rob house and take the guns,perps sneak them across borders...just to name a few,but the govt doesn't enforce the laws on the books...how about judges actually give stiff sentences instead of plea bargains.
Again it's not the cell phone that texts itself and kills its the driver just as its not the bottle of beer that kills it's the driver....it goes back to responsibility! Again this doesn't make things fool proof but it might give or children a fighting chance...the gun doesn't pull the trigger the killer pulls the trigger!!!
Hilarity Jones December 28, 2012 at 02:30 am
So, Lorraine, you being the expert on everything, not a personal attack just an observation, your idea of a huge fence around every school, as you have proposed is a solution based upon what? "There is to my knowledge no national registration or data base of firearms," Really? Are you for real (joke, not a personal attack)? So what you are saying is that anyone who purchases a gun legally, registers said gun, and posesses a license for said firearm is not entered into a database of firearm owners? I guess you are right, as that is what you have stated. Interesting, because if that is the case, how do we know the mother was a REGISTERED GUN OWNER. Lorraine, it would be best if you just continued to spew, as at this point it has become humor, fodder for water cooler dialogue. Please do not take this as any type of attack, as everyone already thinks what I am saying, only I have been voted by the masses to be the spokesperson. Disclaimer: If I do not speak "logically logistical", please speak up. If not you have been heard. Lorraine....please....more, it makes me and the rest of the population who consider themselves sane feel a little more......well you know.......what is the word I am looking for.......give me a minute........on the tip of my tongue.........wait!!......yeah, that's it.........sane.
Joe concerned citizen...not the plumber December 28, 2012 at 11:19 am
Just to clarify a lot of states especially in the suburban areas do not require you rifles and shot guns to be registered, and private sales of such don't have to be recorded with the state....usually it is only the hand guns that need to be registered and the owner needs to be licensed in most states as well. Not knowing the case, the mother was likely a registered hand gun owner cause I believe her son had hand guns with him as well as the rifle
Lorraine is partially correct
Lorraine DeVita December 28, 2012 at 02:05 pm
@ Joe-
This was posted in another article by "Patch Fan" and from what i can see a rather reasonable suggestion, that while not perfect and certainly not infalible would atleast add some measure of structure and consistency of process in owning a gun. they suggested : "let us treat these weapons like we treat cars in the US (a VERY regulated industry). You want an assault rifle, sure no problem. Pass the background and mental health checks through a national data base. Take a written and then a practical exam (like a car). Every weapon that leaves the factory will be required to register in a national database. When sold title changes hands (like a car). You will need to get liability insurance on that weapon (just like a car). You and your estate are now liable for what ever that weapon does (like a car). If your weapon is stolen, just like a car, file the police report as soon as you know and you will protect yourself against that weapon’s claims. You will have to inspect those guns each 365 days to ensure you are following current safety standards set by the state (like a car). The government will every year review and modify safety regulations to include weight, material, safety features, and provide ratings for the public (like a car)." I am assuming from your posts Joe that you are in law enforcement so your thoughts on Patch Fans post would be appreciated. to me atleast it seems like a logical BEGINNING ..
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