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Billy Dean Planning "Las Vegas Style Feel" For Wantagh Business

North Bellmore strip club owner describes plans for Sunrise Highway entertainment facility before Hempstead zoning board Wednesday.

Billy Dean is aiming to have a “Las Vegas style feel” at his planned Wantagh establishment under construction on 3500 Sunrise Hwy.

Dean used "Sin City" during his description of his new business venture during Wednesday’s Hempstead Board of Zoning Appeals (BZA) rehearing to determine whether he will be granted a cabaret license for the Wantagh property. Many in the community fear that adult entertainment will be featured in the planned Wantagh facility, similar to what is offered at Billy Dean's Showtime Cafe, a strip club in North Bellmore that Dean opened in the late 90's.

The Hempstead BZA granted Dean a cabaret license last year for the Wantagh property on the corner of Oakland Avenue, but scheduled Wednesday’s   due to vocal that has mounted against the development as well as a belief that not enough people were notified of his plans during the application process.

“It is going to be a very Las Vegas style feel,” said Dean, who purchased the 3500 Sunrise Hwy. property two years ago for $950,000. “We’re going to do a variety of Las Vegas-style acts.

Dean, a Commack resident, also said during the hearing he has bought the adjacent house located behind 3500 Sunrise Highway where he will locate his office for the new business. Dean said he has spent in excess of $188,000 on repairs and alterations to the building and plans to spend at least another $100,000 before completion.

Dean said some examples of entertainment that will be featured include jugglers, knife throwers and dancers. Dean said at the hearing that no minors will be permitted in the business during evening hours and the facility will stay open until 4 a.m. Occupancy at the business would be 75 patrons with eight employees, according to dean.

 Many of the over 200 people who packed Wednesday’s hearing at Hempstead Town Hall expressed concerns that Dean’s experience with strip club operations will mean the Wantagh establishment will also offer adult entertainment, which would wreak havoc in a residential community with traffic as well as bring down property values.

“I just don’t think it’s the right place for it,” said Dominick Bellezza, who lives in the vicinity of the planned business just south of Sunrise Highway on Woodward Avenue. 

 “I am the one who is going to be affected the most,” said Chris Peterkin, a Vietnam War veteran who lives three houses behind the property where Dean is constructing the entertainment facility.

Elected officials also spoke out against Dean’s application at the beginning of the hearing including Hempstead Town Supervisor Kate Murray, Hempstead Town Councilwoman Angie Cullin, R-Freeport, and Nassau County Legislator Dave Denenberg, D-Merrick. 

The Hempstead BZA reserved decision following the over seven hour hearing and is expected to make its ruling on Dean’s cabaret application this summer.

Dina May 20, 2011 at 04:52 pm
Patrick, you can refrain from the personal accusations on calling people "paranoid", nobody comments on your lack of spelling acumen.
Yes, the politicians were a little late on leading, but thanks to a civilian leader, Kevin Milano, things are getting done. Why doesn't Billy Dean make it simple and sign a statement that both lawyers can create stating that the business can open up, but if there is one act of nudity, or partial nudity (the lawyers can list about 20 different definitions of this) dancing by employees in any manner, the business can be permanently and immediately closed. In other words, prove all of us paranoid people wrong that when there are no windows, no advertising of a coming restaurant, there is a big change from an owner who already established nudity in the only other businesses he opened, that this will be different. I would be willing to bet $100,000 with you that this location will offer lap dances and g-string dancers if opened. My child (not young enough for school) that was at the meeting needs a college fund.
Zee May 20, 2011 at 04:58 pm
They were deceitful in their business plan that stated it would be a full service restaurant. Mr deans attorney avoided that question at the hearing by saying what if it was to be a grill, with a limited menu? Then, mr dean himself said that there would be a changing room for the performers in that same full service kitchen. Hmm, doesn't seem full service to me, and the board of health will be ALL over that, if in fact the business is allowed to open.
Patrick May 20, 2011 at 05:53 pm
What did I spell incorrectly? Jeez, and I won the 2nd grade spelling bee. The definition of paranoia (baseless or excessive suspicion of the motives of others) is absolutely fitting in this dialogue. Everyone opposed to this business believes that Billy Dean is lying to them, you have just proven that correct with your last post. The man has not done anything wrong, but you all believe that he will, that is paranoia. Everyone believes he was deceitful in his application for the permits, that is paranoia. I don't attack people I state fact. If someone believes that everyone is out to get them or that people are constantly lying to them, that is being paranoid. Let's not get into a discussion about spelling or grammar. The first line of your post makes no sense, and your child not being young enough for school does not help your cause. Let's keep it to the facts.
EIEMK May 20, 2011 at 09:52 pm
I find it interesting that in February Mr. Dean & Ms. Gordon had this to say regarding an article in the "Commack Patch" regarding their own community...
EIEMK May 20, 2011 at 09:53 pm
here is what she had to say regarding the article "Vacant Store Fronts Pop Up in Commack"
rori gordon 12:53pm on Thursday, February 17, 2011 As a community we are going down, way down because the landlords have overextended themselves, very much as the housing market did. I just found this article and the Pathmark and Borders books have yet to be mentioned. I think this is a great article, maybe if people understood that everything is a trickle down effect and that we the people of the United States are in serious trouble. Most average consumers never look at the big picture as to how this effects us and it is an indication as to what is to come. How much more can the food stores charge for food? The next will be shopping centers totally vacant because if a landlord needs to get a certain amount to make his mortgage...guess what? He is going to walk away. It unfortunately is coming. Look at the big picture. Little mom and pop stores put in merchandise and the consumer walks in, shops it and then goes home and buys it from an online vendor at a 20% or more savings. How does the little store owner make a living, unless they are selling food, beverages, lotto tickets, jewrely repair,a beauty service, a dining or theatre experience that you can not buy online? They can't. Period. End of the local hardware, video store (change in technology, red box has cornered the market) boutique clothing, small electronics, btw how many nail salons can we have in Commack?
EIEMK May 20, 2011 at 09:53 pm
and Mr. Dean...
William Dean 11:47am on Saturday, February 19, 2011 People can't run around with blinders on and pretend everything is O.K. We already did that with the housing market and every unqualified individual that got a mortage. When I sold a house in East Northport in 2005, I had twelve offers on the home and sold it for more than I was asking. Today, as of 2011, I can't even got a low offer on my house in Commack. If we stick our heads in the sand, by the time we pull them out, the landscape of Commack WILL be different. And, as sad as it is to say, Commack is no different than most other townships on Long Island.
Patrick May 21, 2011 at 02:51 am
KM, I find it interesting that this dialogue has been going on for the last 6 weeks, but your opinion shows up now. What you have cut and pasted, are not your ideas. How about actually stating what you believe, instead of quoting others. Public forum is for giving your own thoughts, not the thoughts of others. Cutting and pasting other forums to bolster your case shows the difinitive lack of knowledge in your own cause, because if you actually believed in what you were saying,or writing, you would state it yourself, and not use another persons words to convey your thoughts. Not surprising, Kevin, or KM as you are calling yourself now. Please tell me that this is the most rediculous coincidence ever. But I suspect no one will respond, that is the norm for the unprepared. To you directly, Dina, what was my spelling mistake? Asked once, not answered. You don't seem to want to have this discussion. Again, not surprising. What I find totally surprising, is that Kevin Milano has nothing to say about all of the interesting things that took place at the hearing. His silence speaks volumes. Come on, Kevin, get involved with the dialogue, or just keep silent because you are a c....d. You should figure that out by 5th period tomorrow, on Covert Ave.
EIEMK May 21, 2011 at 03:29 am
Patrick, I think you misunderstand the "cut and paste" aspect if the post. It was nearly to call attention to what the writers (Gordon and Dean) themselves have stated in their own words regarding a community, their own community in fact. In addition I'm not exactly who it is you are referring to when you mention this other persons name. First off I'm a woman, wife and mother residing in Seaford and my opinions are my own, no one else. It's seems unfortunate for me that I bare the same initials of this individual you find so repulsive.
I find it interesting that you value the freedom of soeach we are all so blessed with, yet you do not let others have an opinion different than yours. We are each entitled to peruse our American Dream, Mr. Dean and his partner are not excluded from that dream but this is not about what the NIMBY's want or don't want. It's about the reasonable co-existence that we must have in order for us to continue to grow as a society. When we look at the surrounding areas and the already established bars, entertainment facilities and restaurants we see a rapidly growing sector that may not be warranted. At what point does it become enough? At what point do we really need another place to go to fir entertainment, whether it be adult or not? Or even another coffee shop. Maybe enough is just enough. Change is never permanent and that scares people.
Neighboroony May 21, 2011 at 03:30 am
I noticed that Patrick chose not to testify in front of his neighbors on Billy Dean's behalf, but hides behind the anonymity of the Internet to testify here. How very noble.
For the record, children strapped into strollers are generally not of school age.
EIEMK May 21, 2011 at 03:31 am
I apologize if my spelling offends... Sometimes technology gets ahead of ones self and auto correct on your phone takes on a life of it's own :)
Patrick May 21, 2011 at 10:31 am
I was not able to testify because I actually had to go to work. I dismiss your attack, because I have been voicing my views from the beginning, and you are just trying to pile on. You have not stated one piece of information, just an attack. If you want to discuss the hearing or the business, please do, if you are going to just spew garbage, keep it to yourself.
Patrick May 21, 2011 at 11:05 am
I have no issue with other peoples opinions, as a matter of fact I relish them. But in this situation it is factual information that needs to be considered, not abject speculation. I used the term paranoia earlier, and it fits. Everyone opposed to this business has basd their opinion on supposition, and when offered fact, they have moaned, groaned, laughed and dismissed it as lies. Because I strenuously defend my position and opinion, does not mean others do not, or can not have their own. My opinions about this situation are based on facts. It is also my opinion hat when faced with facts, the opposition turns to personal attack to deflect, or just ignore them completely, because they can not defend their own opinions. Reasonable co-existence is probably the best statement that has been offered, and I appreciate that. Maybe the others will heed those words.
Brian May 21, 2011 at 12:01 pm
Plain and simple. The community of Wantagh doesn't want this guy in there town and if they did there would have been more Patricks at the board meeting then us. It's our town and we know a strip club owner and a liar when we hear one. Our kids, our town and thats what were protecting. Thanks again to all those moms who got out of there houses with the strollers at 8:30 am and parked a mile a way to protect our town. That takes guts. Remember people, Patrick"s house is up for sale. That's a fact so why is he getting so involved with our issues?
Patrick May 21, 2011 at 12:58 pm
19,000 Wantagh residents, 16,000 Seaford residents, and you speak for them all. Yes, my home is for sale along with 256 other homes for sale in Wantagh/Seaford, what does that have to do with anything? Our town, our issues, I wasn't aware that the town had a benevolent dictator. Again with the lies. I am involved because I want to be involved. I am involved so that people like you don't trample over the rights of others. I can not even fathom the ego it takes to make such outrageous statements. Get off your high horse, none of us are that important.
Brian May 21, 2011 at 08:28 pm
We still don't know why your involved. We can only assume.
Patrick May 22, 2011 at 01:41 am
I guess my previous statement meant nothing to you, or maybe it didn't register. You asked me why I was involved, and I told you. What don't you understand? I have told you many times that I have absolutely no connection to this business. What don't you get? Oh, that's right, everyone is lying to you. Ask me again, the answer will be the same.
Newsflash: Here is a quote from your brother: “We’re going to continue [the protests] until it is absolutely official that his cabaret license is revoked,” said Milano. “If he keeps his cabaret license and opens we’re going to continue in our protest." Drove by at 11:15 am today, no one there continuing the protest. Typical rabblerousers. Shoot your mouths off, get your 15, and disappear. You had enough time to post on this blog this morning, but couldn't find the time to actually do what you said you will do. Why do I not find that surprising. I will continue, ad infinitum, to reply to everything you can proffer about this situation, and rebuke all you have to say, because it will be easy, considering you have nothing new to offer. Why no protest today? Oh, that's right, the hearing already happened, and there is no reason to continue spending time. That is fact, there is absolutely no dipute. If you can refute this, please do. I expect nothing other than a feeble attempt to discredit me, attack me, tell everyone my house is for sale, or give other completely irrelevant information. It's all you have.
Patricia Goldsmith May 22, 2011 at 11:02 pm
I find it upsetting that Angie Cullen, who represents Wantagh, claims she knew nothing about all this. That is not what you want to hear from your elected representative. Fighting something like this after the fact is much more difficult than keeping it from happening in the first place.
Patrick May 23, 2011 at 01:14 am
Angie Cullens statement at the hearing proves how little this means to her. She did not even have the respect or the courage to put together her own statement, all she did was agree with what Kate Murray said. And all Kate Murray did at the hearing was campaign. Called Bellmore, for all intents and purposes, a red light district. Took the opportunity to tell everyone that is was she who introduced the proposed changes to the BZA notification guidelines, what an opportune moment. Grandstanding at its best. Apparently Dave Dennenberg's office was contacted by the business owners in November '10 about the business, and he did not respond. From the information I have, it was Dennenbergs office that initiated the contact. If anyone knew what was going on, Dave Dennenberg would be the one, as Billy Deans active business is actually in his district. You would think he would know. When will it be time for elected representatives to stop being so "politically correct" and actually tell a few people that they are wrong. Stop coddling people and let them know that they are as responsible, no, more responsible, for what happens in their neighborhood. Lose a few votes, gain a lot of respect. I knew about this last year, and I am just a resident. Don't anyone kid themselves, this information was known long before March of this year, when everyone "found out".
Brian May 23, 2011 at 11:38 am
I was out there protesting with my brother on Saturday and I saw you drive by and it was much later than 11:15 so who's lying now? We will continue to protest every Saturday as we had the past few months. With me catching you in a lie I will no longer communicate with you on the patch. I wish you luck with the sale of your house and hope you can buy a nice house right next store to a great strip club. It seems that is what you want to live around. BYE BYE....
Patrick May 23, 2011 at 12:25 pm
I drove by at 11:15 and there was no one in front of the business protesting. It is funny how it took you 36 hours to formulate you response. So what you are stating here is that i made the whole thing up? I don't make stuff up, nor I do not lie. Why is it that everyone who holds a viewpoint opposing yours lies all the time. If you actually were there, you were the only one and you certainly were not in fromt of the business, because as I said, there was no one in fromt of that building on Saturday at 11:15am. Never fails, personal attack, lack of verifiable information, everyone's lying and a cop-out. Don't really care that you will stop communicating on this blog, you never actually proffered any legitimate information, all you did was say that everyone's lying, make personal attacks, tell people I am selling my house, and ask question then completely ignore the answers. You won't be missed.
Patrick May 25, 2011 at 01:51 am
It seems that the opposition to this business no longer wants to engage in a dialogue. That is, again, not surprising, since the hearing was held last week, and therefore no follow up needs to happen. Kevin, Brian, Kathy, and all of the rest of your horde, this follows the standard direction that all indifferent mobs,yes I used the word, generally follow. You all seem to think that you have done your duty, but is now, after the hearing,when the genuine, credible opponents would normally dig in their heels to fight the fight. Kevin stated on this blog that; “We’re going to continue [the protests] until it is absolutely official that his cabaret license is revoked,”. A quote from Kathy Volz " There may still be a few rallies in front of 3500 Sunrise Highway, Wantagh so you should check with Kevin Milano."... We are going to continue until it is ABSOLUTELY OFFICIAL. There MAY still be a few rallies. You people have just shown your true colors. True believers do what they say, from beginning to end. They do not hide from their opposition, nor do they avoid the tough questions. You all have done both, and it is my contention that you will continue to do so. You all have the opportunity to prove me wrong, it is solely up to you. Kevin, Brian, Kathy, et al. were do you stand?
Zee May 25, 2011 at 02:10 am
I can only speak for myself, but engaging in dialogue with you is extremely redundant and boring. It's the same questions, which we answer, and it's like talking to a brick wall. I'm quite positive that i will focus my efforts to keep this in the attention of our town members, whether it is in the form of protests or raising community awareness of impending businesses.
Patrick May 26, 2011 at 02:01 am
It is nice to hear that you will actually do your civic duty from here on in, good for you. I find it intereting that you equate this dialogue, and my involvement in the dialogue, akin to speaking to a brick wall. Only the opponents to this business, yourself included, have been the ones who will not waver from their opinions and beliefs, which are based solely on conjecture. You have all dismissed any idea that Billy Dean can, and will do what he says, because you just don't believe him. He is just lying to you. That mindset is unfortunate. I hope you never need zoning for a fence on your property, that maybe one of your neighbors feels, a year later, after you've paid for and installed it, that it is to high, or maybe encraoches on their property by an inch or two, because that is the pandoras box that you have opened with this. That little strip of grass between the sidewalk and the curb in front of your home, is TOH property, and you are not allowed to do anything on that piece of land without a permit. You can't take a problematic tree down, and you can not plant a tree without permission. So, for instance, if you have installed an underground sprinkler system on that land, and do not have a permit from the TOH, there is a very good chance you have violated zoning laws. While you think your cause is big picture stuff, it without question affects everyone , big and small. Think about that over your morning Wheaties.
Patrick June 25, 2011 at 01:53 am
I am happy to see that people in this community have actually realized what some if the important issues are. Kevin Milano, the spearhead, has never once answered any questions related to the actual facts of this situation. He has ignored them in favor of blowing his own horn for his agenda. This agenda,by the way, was the idea of a politician up for re-election, whose district does not even include the area affected, and that same person spent the entire day of the rehearing neglecting his constituents, to get recognition. If this statement is not true, please rebuke. Kevin Milano reads all of the posts concerning this issue, and chooses not to respond, to me, or to anyone opposing his position. I call that cowardice. All he does is constantly restate unsubstantiated information that is supposed to support his innuendo. Not one fact. If this is not true, give us all a response, Kevin. This post will be copied on all articles regarding this issue so that no one can say the didn't see it, and havethe chance to respond.
Steven O'reilly October 14, 2011 at 04:34 pm
To all you Wantagh residents those who live in glass houses should not throw stones your biggest bar in town mulcaheys has been serving minors for years under the protection of the seventh precint they have more fights there in a month then the showtime has had in its business duration so please wake up and smell the coffee kate murray is doing what she does for she is a politician if Billy Dean states it is not going to be a strip club take him for his word and if he ever does adult entertainment there then shut his ass down thank you
Gina Post March 14, 2012 at 04:16 pm
Patrick, Flip it, flop it which ever way you'd like, people here in Wantagh aren't happy at all! I work in Jamaica, NY and people here are even talking about this place and what it's going to do to Wantagh, it's like a disease that's being dropped into Wantagh, it's going to spread like wild fire once people start moving out and Wantagh goes to hell in a handbasket, those are some facts you can eat up! Like it or not!
Gina Post March 14, 2012 at 04:20 pm
Steven, I won't even get into the 7th Precinct here, it's a joke and a half and they let the kids around here get away with anything and everything, wait until these kids get older and they have to deal with them as adults, good luck Charlie! The 7th Precinct need to get some new cops and mulcaheys is another problem we need to fix around here!
Gina Post March 14, 2012 at 04:21 pm
Patrick name calling won't get you anywhere in life, just some facts for ya ;)
Patrick March 15, 2012 at 11:42 am
Gina, where have you been for the past year? You know nothing, and you have no facts. The majority of the people in Wantagh, business owners and residents, couldn't care less about this business opening, that is a fact. As a matter of fact, business owners around town HATE the opponents because of what they have done, another fact. How do I know? I actually asked them. You cannot speak for anyone but yourself. Why would anyone in Jamaica care what is going on in Wantagh? You, along with all the rest, are completely uninformed. You fit right in with the other zealots. You have not given one fact, just opinions. Standard fare for the uninformed. When you actually come up with solid fact, please get back to me, otherwise stay on the sidelines like you have for the past 2 years.

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