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Letter to Editor: Failed Seaford Budget Would be Devastating

Seaford High School/Middle School PTSA co-presidents express support for spending plan.

To the editor: 

At the last meeting of the Seaford High School/Middle School PTSA, the membership present took a vote in support of the . As officers of the PTSA, we were witness to the unfortunate cuts that have adversely affected the students of our district. While the proposed budget does not restore programs that were cut, it does take essential steps toward rebuilding our schools and preserving its programs. 


In addition, the budget includes a much-needed five-year plan which will update the district’s technology, thereby affording our students the opportunity to compete with other students both nationally and globally.

A failed budget would result in devastating cuts adversely affecting our property values, but more importantly, the quality of our children’s education would be at risk. The Seaford Board of Education has proposed a budget with a tax levy of 2.5 percent, which is below the New York State allowable limit of 2.93 percent. This is a fair budget in that it takes steps toward restoring the quality education our children deserve,while taking into consideration the financial strain the economy has placed upon the citizens of Seaford.

For detailed information on the budget, please consider attending the town hall meeting presented by the administration and school board members in the meeting room of the this Monday from 7-9 p.m. 

The school budget vote is on Tuesday, May 15 from 7 a.m. to 9 p.m. at the and the . We urge you to become an informed citizen and cast your vote on Tuesday, May 15.
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Mary Ann Gorman and Coleen Graziose

Seaford High School/Middle School PTSA Co-Presidents

Lorraine DeVita May 15, 2012 at 06:28 pm
PLS make sure they take the IT director with them and i will cast my vote for that concept! Does ANYONE realize our VOLUNTEER Tech committe has accomplished MORE in several months then our IT Director has in SEVERAL years At top salary, or has that slipped everyones mind? Even the Board Differs to the Tech committee over and above the IT Director. Now tell me EXACTLY why he is still emplyed Mr Conboy.. these are MANAGEMENT ISSUES that are going unaddressed. COSTLY ones both in dollars and cents and in pratice :costly both to the community AND the STUDENTS...
Chris Wendt May 15, 2012 at 07:02 pm
I sincerely hope for a break in that dark cloud today, and for a passed budget for Seaford. Believe me when I say, after personally encountering many Seaford voters this very morning at the Wantagh station, I am hopefull of a successful budget vote tonight.
BeeKay May 15, 2012 at 07:46 pm
Okay, so if I follow Lorainne and NYC Teach correctly, the solution to outdated technology and large class sizes is to vote NO on this budget? Hmmm, interesting approach. I can only hope most people realize that the shaky ground we currently stand on is a result of the 2005-2010 regime. Last year was a disaster as we all know when the "perfect storm" that was brewing for 5+ years actually made ground here in Seaford. THIS budget is a step in the RIGHT direction given the circumstances, obviously the two biggest challenges being the tax levy cap and contractual obligations. BTW, where is class size 28? Elementary or secondary? I'm not doubting it, just wondering which school, which class?
Lorraine DeVita May 15, 2012 at 07:47 pm
Beekay ever hear " do it right the first time" ? or "dont leave off for tomorrow what you CAN do today"?
By DECREASING the tech budget to keep one season of MS sports they have done exactly what you are saying& what they WANT people to say: If you don t vote for it we lose tech.. MY viewpoint a YES vote will ONCE again be supporting the priority of other things over EDUCATION. If you remember I stated in other POSTs that the number IS doable it is how it is constructed.Even if the # was 2.9 but they stated they reviewed options ,decided to eliminate ALL MS sports, CUT the AD position, reassigning the work to the Coaches & a Clrk,(as is done in other districts) They would charge 4 band camp, they would Charge SCOPE , they would implement the FULL technology propsal, replenish the fund balance , negotiate o% increases on contracts currently under negotiation& increase benefit contributions,focus on providing students with sat/act prep courses in school, trim down the # of electives that have under a certain # of students , possibly substituting with an expanded after school "club" offering if students were still interested. Trim the number of school sponsored field trips to be replaced with Student PAY Field trips which would be subsidized by fund raising if needed. Firing the IT dir.& replace with an IT mngr @ a lower cost w/ more experience/qualifications i could whole heartedly agree this district was on the right path to refocusing priorities & I would support it.
NYC Teach May 15, 2012 at 08:01 pm
@Informed Citizen: You claim to be informed and yet time and again you prove otherwise. Attending a few meetings does not give you the whole picture. Yes, I am a NYC teacher for many years, and quite proud of it actually. I am certainly not bitter over where I work or the career path I have chosen. Here's what I am bitter about. Spending $10,000 a year on school taxes and having 27+ children in a class. $10,000 a year on school taxes and the only hope my child has of working with proper technology is in 5 years when she is in high school. $10,000 a year on school taxes and having people laugh when they hear I live in Seaford. "I hope your kids are athletic." We've been trying to sell our house for over 2 years and 2 potential buyers left when they heard it was Seaford School District. You're absolutely right. I am bitter. The more important question is why aren't you? Wait...let me guess. Your children must be athletes. How many professional athletes have come from Seaford Schools that would make it necessary to spend so much on Sports and so little on the betterment of our children's education?
NYC Teach May 15, 2012 at 08:13 pm
I can't speak for the secondary schools but there are 27+ students in the lower grades in elementary schools.
BeeKay May 15, 2012 at 08:13 pm
@NYC Teach, I'm sorry your friends laugh at you...voting NO is definitely a proactive approach to the situation. And for not selling your home, houses that are priced right are selling. If you'd like, I can supply you with the MLS #s for 83 homes that CLOSED in the past 6 months. Not too bad for a cr*ppy RE market.
BeeKay May 15, 2012 at 08:19 pm
where NYC Teach, which school, which class? I believe that information can be shared online. One of my children is in 1st grade at the Harbor in a class of 20. The classroom is fantastic, and his teacher is excellent, actually using the Smartboard as an effective instructional tool rather than a glorified whiteboard. When I spoke to my child's friends' parents in other classes, there were all in the same 20-24 area. One class has 19. So please do share....with the specific lower grade that has 28 as you claim. Again, not doubting you, but still haven't been given an answer.
Walter M May 15, 2012 at 08:26 pm
Uh oh, just came back from voting after picking up my kid- lots of angry parents voting NO due to lack of accountablilty/answers from the BOE. Good news is they are also only casting 1 vote- for Annalisa. With contract negotiations most are smart enough to realize the last thing we need is a principal on the BOE.
NYC Teach May 15, 2012 at 09:30 pm
In the Manor there are 27 students in the 1st Grade classes. I won't speak for other classes because I don't want to give false information. However, it is my understanding from other Manor parents that their classes are just as high, 25-28.
Informed citizen May 15, 2012 at 10:56 pm
Some of you people are just out of touch- vote no becuase their is no accountability from the BOE- a no vote gives less accountability and means that they can then make more substantial cuts as for the comment that technology is outdated. Your crying about your 10k taxes being so high how would you propose to bring in the new technology? No more spending but miraculously update the technology! Get a clue how budgets work. And as for cutting sports? Can you say Heroin- thats what kids will be doing after school if there are no sports or other extra curricular activities.
Chris Wendt May 15, 2012 at 11:02 pm
@ NYC Teach - Re: class sizes of 25-28 pupils....
Are you really a teacher...in NYC...public schools? Your describing class sizes of 25-28 in a 96.6% white, middle-class, suburban Long Island school district...is that by way of "devastation", or "suffering children"? http://www.zip-codes.com/zip-code/11783/zip-code-11783-2010-census.asp
NYC Teach May 16, 2012 at 01:02 am
Come on. Surely even someone like yourself, who has never spent more than 5 minutes in a classroom, can agree that 27 children in a 1st grade classroom severely disables a teacher's ability to give individualized attention. So because my kids are white and middle class we should pack in their classrooms? Seems fair.
boedaddy May 16, 2012 at 01:38 am
any results??
Risa May 16, 2012 at 02:14 am
WE PASSED!!!! Lorraine - please go pick on another group now! Thank you Seaford!! This is what makes our town GREAT!!!!
boedaddy May 16, 2012 at 02:16 am
who won BOE?
boedaddy May 16, 2012 at 02:18 am
Passed 1766-1262=504 difference, talkk about skin of it's teeth!
MAC May 16, 2012 at 02:25 am
Ruona 1578 3 year term, Wink 1474 1 year term
Chris Wendt May 16, 2012 at 02:33 am
Very...small...of you, there, Risa. This was not about Lorraine. You should be more gracious in victory.
Chris Wendt May 16, 2012 at 02:34 am
This was a good result; close and right-feeling.
Excellent news on passing your budget...congratulations, Seaford!
mary hayes May 16, 2012 at 02:36 am
Wonderful news for Seaford!!! I agree, Risa, our town is great--always has been---always will be! We will grow from here, with the help and support of the whole community. It has been a long year...hooray for us! BTW 504 is not the "skin of it's teeth" I've seen a budget passed by less than 10...education remains an important part of the fabric of our town...thank goodness we are no longer one of 2 failed budgets in Nassau County any more..
MAC May 16, 2012 at 02:37 am
Hey Chris write about Wantagh! For the past month all we've seen is blogs by you and Lorraine. The people have spoken, you and her can keep your mouths shut for a year.
Risa May 16, 2012 at 02:50 am
Chris - you are entitled to your opinion however after being brought into Lorraine's arguments unsolicited, I decided to stoop to that level just this once and feel just fine about it. Believe me - I am well aware this was never about Lorriane and it won't be now either! It is about Seaford and the people that LOVE it here - LOVE our community and LOVE how we pull together and OVERCOME when we need to! CONGRATULATIONS TO ALL OF US!!!
Lorraine DeVita May 16, 2012 at 03:09 am
RISA, Congrats. This was never about me vs you personally this was about My perception of what should be important vs yours. People are allowed to think differently .. I am happy the Seaford voted in such a large turnout, and i am happy that they voted about whats important to THEM. and thats all i ever stated and urged. For them to vote on whats important to them and their family. I stated what was important to me. I do hope that Seaford continues to be VOCAL vigilant and focused on turning this district around .. and I think we BOTh can agree the next hurdle that Seaford is going to face is the unions contract next year. hopefully we can work together to get that resoved in a manner that puts the students at the head of the class. Congrats to all fought so hard to ge this budget passed.
mo May 16, 2012 at 03:11 am
Way to go Seaford!! The people have spoken. I want to thank Lorraine as I think some of your negative rantings actually swung some voters the other way.
Risa May 16, 2012 at 03:13 am
Very well put Lorraine, Thank you!
Merrick7 May 16, 2012 at 06:55 am
Ok, so after calling the State Regents office which I so recomend doing, recently. They are incredibly nice btw. Busing is not mandated. In any district where students live in less than two miles from their school. Also thanks to a repeal about busing, if not enough students are utilizing the service they can eliminate routes and services. As for eligibility the rules differ between k-6 and 7 to 12, but are universal rules applied to the subsets. One for two miles. Yes the rules if you have busing, show it is being used than you must have mileage requirements, I never disputed, than those mileage can be changed by referendum.
My cites about case law are from the 1970s with Buffalo and Yonkers, and I was correct but the case law used was how no city district requires busing under the law. Also yes when contingency budgets now with the new law that freezes spending could eventually run into the situations where all that is left are contracts to cuts spending cannot be increased, personnel contracts overryle the value of transportation. This is not about class sizes which I did not say was the reason. Personnel are the essential part of the budget, nothing to do with transportation or class sizes, but contract law value of essential members of district. Also you claim a lot of knowledge and demand sources. I explained myself and also cited the State regents. Please if you constantly claim to know cite your sources b.c arrogance and sarcasm clearly does not make you right.
Chris Wendt May 16, 2012 at 10:42 am
Morning has broken, a new day has dawned. Now it is time to WAKE UP!
Just as defeating the Seaford budget would not have solved the underlying financial problems, neither has passing your budget actually "fixed" anything. Yes, you can take a few days now to relish your budget victory. But then you need to get over your euphoria and get to work on the real fiscal and financial issues in Seaford, or, you will be right back in the soup next year, staring disaster in the face once again.
Lorraine DeVita May 16, 2012 at 12:57 pm
MO,
My negative rantings had a purpose - to get people to THINK about what is important to them, I have ALWAYS stated that. Vote on Whats important to you , vote for whats best for you and your family". While i stated i didnt think this budget was the best and why. , I NEVER told people HOW to vote. This was never personal, it was about getting people to THINK, be focused , be vocal and vigilant. Hopefully Seaford realizes there is still ALOT of work to be done and that if we concentrate on quality education working together for all students we can take all the good things people love about Seaford and make it even better. You have to know what the problems are so you can find the solutions .. I pointed out what i think is wrong, hopefully you will understand that and we ALL can work together to provide solutions that put these kids back at the head of the class..But Mo there is still ALOT of work to be done to accomplish that.. Can we agree on that atleast? Congrats ! ljd
mo May 16, 2012 at 04:13 pm
@ Lorraine. Agreed. There is alot of work to be done. I am happy the budget passed as we could not afford to lose anything else. Now we have to push to fix the existing problems.

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