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Save Seaford Sports Committee Preparing to Fundraise Again

Group to spring back into action after learning budget proposal only funds one athletic season at Seaford Middle School.

The Save Seaford Sports Committee  is preparing to spring back into action after learning the  voters will be deciding on May 15 only funds one season of middle school athletics.

Save Seaford Sports formed last summer with the aim of raising enough funds to restore the winter and spring seasons of middle school athletics after they were cut from the budget. The group was successful in salvaging the winter sports season at but  of being able to bring back the spring athletic teams.

The roughly $30,000 that Save Seaford Sports raised in its restoration efforts for the spring season can now be used toward fundraising efforts for the 2012/13 school year. The $57.8 million budget proposal adopted by the Seaford Board of Education on April 3 funds the spring middle school athletic season, which costs around $70,000. If voters approve the district’s spending plan on May 15, Save Seaford Sports would be tasked with raising around $140,000 to revive the fall and winter middle school seasons.

Save Seaford Sports co-president Ann Lynch said no decision has been made yet on how to utilize the leftover funds from the unsuccessful effort to restore spring sports. She said that if the budget fails and high school sports are forced to be cut, some money may need to be utilized to bring back those teams.

“We unfortunately have to rely on the budget vote to completely decide our fate,” Lynch said. “I hope it works out.”

Save Seaford Sports is currently selling raffle tickets with the first prize being a trip of the winner’s choice. The group is in the process of planning future fundraisers and trying to recruit additional help.

For further information on Save Seaford Sports, e mail saveseafordsports@gmail.com or log onto the group’s Facebook page.

 

 

 

 

Lorraine DeVita April 19, 2012 at 09:51 pm
Lifeisgood- a budget that is a conceived work product of Experienced unbiased leadership, Strong management , solid business best practices ,IMPECCABLY Sound Transparent fiscal management , putting the EDUCATIONAL needs of ALL the students 1st gets my vote..This board and Conboy have not given us that. If they did I would stand on the roof waving a big flag screaming VOTE YES..
I Vote based on what does this budget say - , what are we accomplishing is it fiscaly responsible, is our money being managed properly, is it educationaly sound does it address even 95% of what we need and is it FAIR and equitable to ALL.... if not vote no, if it is then vote yes.. I dont think it is.. I think they can DO better for EVERYONE even At the current proposed increase..... I EXPECT better .. DO YOU?
Lifeisgood April 19, 2012 at 10:16 pm
As i said i do agree it could be better and each year i believe it will consistently move in the right direction but u cannot do it in just one budget. It will take several just as all af the big banks and companies we all had to bail out. When the teachers are up for a new contract, that is when the BOE should really start to play hardball. Voting down another budget will hurt seaford as a whole. Why buy here when they could buy in wantagh, bellmore and massapequa where there schools are not having the problems we are. If i was a buyer i would skip right past seaford knowing the budget was shot down 2 years in a row
Tom April 20, 2012 at 01:04 am
What is really disturbing about this forum is not the diversity of opinions but the flippant remarks about the school system, the administration, the BOE and parent groups, each one of whom are working to try and balance rising costs, unfounded mandates and contractual obligations with an ongoing reality, the lack of commercial property in the district. While I certainly can respect an individual residents right to vote as he or she pleases, the abundance of negative comments are, in my opinion, gratuitous and based upon I don't know what? For instance, I repeatedly read about "mismanagement" "lack of transparency" and, my personal favorite, the community being "fed up." I wish that even one individual would document his/her claim of mismanagement for all to read! As for lack of transparency, while I cannot speak for the past, I know that this spring there was a (painful) line by line and public examination of the 2012-13 spending plan proposed by the district. Additionally, the various departments and/or administrative arms were also available to explain, defend and answer specific questions about their piece of that plan. If one were present for all or any of those PUBLIC sessions then he/she would have heard about the connection of the spending plan to the goals of the district (e.g., APPR, the implementation of the new Common Core Learning Standards, new technology that would assist students/teachers in meeting a variety of goals and mandates).
Tom April 20, 2012 at 01:24 am
Thus, where exactly is the mismanagement, lack of transparency etc. and which items are people fed up about? Are they fed up with technology, higher academic standards, career and college readiness? Or , will people elect to vote NO just because they can? Where does the partnership begin? Do people simply not care whether or not we appropriately educated the current generation of students in grades K-12. Based upon the comments that I have read as recently as today, some people want to be able to fund a middle school sports program but not an academic program. While I suppose that such is clearly one's prerogative, there you have it! No explanation of why one wants a separate proposition for middle school sports. What a sad statement about our community! I read over and over again about how "the community" is rising up in rebellion. What exactly is it that people are rebelling against? The bars and restaurants in this community (aside from being overpriced) are packed on Friday and Saturday nights. The boat marinas are full. So what is our new mantra "millions for fun, but not a dime for education?" I am truly embarrassed to say that I live here!
Lorraine DeVita April 20, 2012 at 02:32 am
@tom,
Lack of transparency? - Ok so what happened to the REST of the abrams audit that details areas that need to be addressed.. its in the report, its listed , but it was mysteriously missing from the posted audit on the website. You dont leave off specific pages just for the hell of it.. Mismanagement? well lets see- I consider that MIS mangement can be construed as a Board that Violates and ignores its own policy and procedures. i will be more then happy to cite if your interested. and i have the FOILS to back it up. I consider MIS management can be perceived when District leaders do not take corrective measures to insure when alleged fiscal issues arise and the Board proposes and aproves policies to insure they arent repeated, I consider it MISmanagement when reserves are depleted to the point that we are penalized and places the fiscal health of the community in jeopardy. I consider it Mismangement when the superintendent manipulates curriculumn to preserve TRADITION rather then educational equity. I consider it Mis mangement when curriculum is manipulated to meet the needs of WHO we have on staff not visa versa. I consider it MIsmangement when we manipulate titles to play games with Albany I consider it MIsmangement when we play line games with personnel titles and respon to support qualifying AID from Albany . Are we fed up with the LACK of :Technology, lack of higher standards, lack of college readiness, acceptance and RETENTION, yah think?
Lorraine DeVita April 20, 2012 at 03:20 am
Are we fed up looking at neighboring districts with the SAME mandates, same restrictions, SAME rules and regs , same issues, who have managed their money more effectively & wisely and wonder how the hell did we end up with the bozos running the district. Are we fed up listening to we are the "lowest spending district " when we PAY THE SAME as our neighbors in taxes. and we get MUCH less ? How come we arent upto date on the Sale of the Ave. School, no word on the Harbor road, no word on APPR, No word on Core Curriculum mandates, how come We dont have town meetings to clearly explain the budget and the Ed. action plan for this district like probably 88% of the other districts have.This board needs to acknowledge that an INFORMED community is the BEST resource to support a budget. Why do we WAIT so long to development a budget and then RUSH to approve before we need to? Why dont we do our due diligence when hiring people?
why dont we stop playing games with Ms sports. So We throw "them a bone" to appease them? one season? Cut the damn program completely throw HALF OF THE 71K for one Season of sports for approx 100 kids into technology and the OTHEr half into an additonal entry level teacher to keep elem. classrooms under 195o;s class sizes. CHARGE SCOPE for building use and janitorial and let the parents who utilize it pay l the same amount ike all other parents do in other districts. No sweetheart deals for anyone .including previous SUPs.&Charge for BAND CAMP
Lorraine DeVita April 20, 2012 at 03:46 am
AND dump the AD and let the coaches assume the reposnsibilites. thats ANOTHER 44k right there. Shall I continue Mr. Fagan becaseu I can save you more money.... ? It doesnt take a rocket scientist! oh BTW NEXT time i get up to speak # a Brd meeting pls keep the snide comments in check.. follow your OWN policies - and for the record I am NOT a FILIBUSTER I think a B__LL buster would be more accurate.
Lifeisgood April 20, 2012 at 03:58 pm
Well said Tom, couldn't agree with u more.
Lorraine DeVita April 20, 2012 at 04:24 pm
Tom,
I suggested a sep. prop for middle school sports for one reason I KNOW it would get voted DOWN and that would for once and all put an end to it. I truly believe this community is FULLY aware that there are alternatives which these kids are ALREADY utilizing and that the monies could be best utlized elsewhere. There seems to be a perception that we need to rally around a cause just Be CAUSE. ENOUGH with MS Sports .. Does anyone realize that with the 100k raised The ENTIRE 8th grade could all have had IPADS ? which would have been passed down to the NEXT class.. I applaud your efforts BUT ENOUGH ALREADY.with Ms sports. . Let it go,
Ozone Park Native April 20, 2012 at 04:25 pm
@Lorraine - Grew up on Sutter Ave, then lived on 107th st and 109 ave....Love to site and chat anytime....
Ozone Park Native April 20, 2012 at 04:29 pm
@mo & Lorraine - When I was moving out here my concern was the school and neighborhood - my husband would laugh and tell everyone we purchased a school district, not a house. My child was coming from private schools and my concern was education and would they receive the same quality....I knew seaford from relatives that live here it was a no brainer for me.
mo April 20, 2012 at 04:49 pm
@Lorraine. I don’t know why you would even throw the word EDUCATED out there. Do you think anyone is buying a $400,000 house working at Taco Bell (unless management)? Of course they are educated (as am I by the way). I moved here 17 years ago and physically went to all of the schools to see what programs they offered INCLUDING sports. Maybe it’s me but I wanted my kids to be well rounded and to have choices for their passion. I think the younger generation does even MORE homework in these tough times to ensure more value on a home. How many Seaford students are getting music scholarships? So why not get rid of music too? Kids may not need to know how to throw a football when embarking on a career but they don’t need to know how to play the flute either. The whole point of this is with the taxes we pay we shouldn’t have to drop any programs at all. If we don’t fight ANY kind of cuts where will it end?
Risa April 20, 2012 at 04:52 pm
You know Lorraine - I was quiet until the "BUT ENOUGH ALREADY" about Middle School Sports comment! Those of us that have CHOSEN to work to get our sports back WILL! If you don't like it TOUGH - we will not stop trying! You have your opinions but sometimes you go too far and the fact that I am responding means it is one of those times! If people want Ipads, better technology, more of anything, let them come out and voice their opinons and work as hard as us SAVE SEAFORD SPORTS families have! The $100,000 that WE raised could have gone to ipads??? You are absolutely right if a group of passionate parents - like us - wanted to head up a committee for ipads no one would have stopped them - obviously it is not that important to our community or someone would have already! Personally, I went through my entire school career, graduated college and have a career in Marketing that I am very proud of and at 39 years of age STILL DON'T HAVE AN IPAD!!! You may think that sports are not important and I respect your opinion - HOWEVER IT IS ENOUGH ALREADY - WE HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR! Move on to bashing another group of hardworking people and leave the sports parents alone!!!
mo April 20, 2012 at 04:56 pm
@Lorraine. BTW I do respect most of what you write on here and follow your insight on some of the budget information I dont get at the board meetings and find it very helpful. I just dont agree about the comment you made about getting rid of ALL sports as I think it would be town suicide.
Lorraine DeVita April 20, 2012 at 06:35 pm
Mo- I also think that getting rid of HS sports would be suicide for this community, HOWEVER- i do think that we spend too much money and WAYYY to much attention to sports.If HALF the attention to sports were focused on education, and all the running around to raise funds for sports was focused on insuring that these kids had the EDUCATIONAL TOOLs they need for success then we would all be better off..and Mo TY, i dont expect everyone or anyone to agree with me even 50% of the time, I just want people to explore ALL possibilities to insure we are giving these kids the best we can at a price we can afford.. ALL the kids..I know we CAN do better, my concern is how many WANT to?
Lorraine DeVita April 20, 2012 at 06:51 pm
Mo, I am lmao I played the FLUTE (1st chair! ) AND private lessons AFTER school. I HATED THE DAMN FLUTE & i can personally testify that flute playing is NOT a biggie. in the corp enviroment.. . I agree, TOTALY , perhaps you havent seen my posts on the NEW music wing or BAND CAMP etc. But i gave equal razzies to them too ..My point is we need sound fiscal management, then perhaps we wouldnt NEED to cut. and when we DO cut perhpas we need to look at why somethings are cut and why some arent.. to be truthful music would probably win out over sports as it is a wee bit more academicaly inclined but as a FLUTE playing marcher myself ,, i could have done without it and not been scarred for life ..guaranteed at least 35% of the kids in band feel the same way..
mo April 20, 2012 at 08:09 pm
Lorraine, the reason there is so much focus on sports is because it was cut. Yes, there were academic programs cut but where are the parents fundraising for those? Exactly, there are none. As far as your comment about music is “more academically inclined” that would be your opinion. Here me out.. my son struggled in elementary school but come 7th grade he makes the football team. Knowing if he missed a homework or his grades declined he couldn’t play (my rules AND the school) it was like magic happened. His grades are in the 90’s and the thought of not being able to play on that team gave him something to work towards academically. My point is it’s not just about playing a sport there is so much that goes into it for these kids. I hate that people stereotype kids that play sports as dumb jocks or it’s just extra exercise. Yes we have additional town sports (and he was on those too) but I am so grateful for him being part of the school team for the last two years. I don’t know that he would have worked as hard academically. Do I expect him to make the NFL (would be nice) No, I don’t. But the fact is these kids become more serious about school being part of these teams. There are soooo many kids that need that push. That’s why they are so important. You can take away sports and add more “academic” programs but for some kids they NEED that team to push them along. You would help the more gifted kids but you leave out another group entirely.
Lorraine DeVita April 21, 2012 at 03:05 am
@Risa,I have always stated that I applaud your efforts, I have stated numerous times that your group is VERY dedicated , you all worked extremly hard even though I dont agree with you. I supported your efforts NOT becasue I felt cutting MS sports was horrific, I supported your efforts because I felt the manner in which it was cut & why was as totaly unfair. As the mother of a Nationaly recruited 4yr FULL RIDE ATHLETE in BOTH football AND track , I will tell you this , HE didnt have sports in MS he went to St.Williams, We took him 6 nites a week to Mustang football, 3 nites a week CYO basketball,4 nites a week Seaford Little league, running around like loons from one place to the next. PLUS game days.YOU are doing the same thing,& you want us to continue to fund ADDITIONAL"playtime" in todays economic times so your kids can play for a school when they ARE doing the same sports without us footing the bill? Explain to me WHY? like I said LAST year was a different story you were robbed, but this year do you honestly expect seaford residents to once again chip in when your kids have VERY viable alternatives & those alternatives allow MORe then just a handful of kids to play?Like i said ENOUGH about sports, Who wants them to play for the school more YOU or THEM, WHO has made this a priority the parents or the kids. They ALL play together in the town leagues So ENOUGH about Sports your kid is not in MS to play a sport.your kid is in MS to get an education
Lorraine DeVita April 21, 2012 at 04:02 am
mo,
I cant relate to that philosphy at all, partly because My son went to St. williams 7&8th grade when they didnt have sports , so he played football for Massapequa Mustangs which is HIGHLY competetive, even though we live in Seaford. He played CYO basketball Seaford Little league he would have played lacross if i had let him.. Our rules were ALWAYS grades first , we didnt care if he didnt give 100% on the field but we DID care if he gave less than 100% in school those were the rules .If You dont work to your FULL potential in the classroom you are NOT playing sports. PERIOD if your potential is A then a B wont cut it .. Which was strongly reinforced in Chaminade HS. When they leave the nest and go to college its anything goes. so the example YOU set, the priorites YOU establish hopefully will guide them. He knew the rules AND the consequences. There were NO exceptions. I didnt send him to school to play sports, he went to get an education, THAT was his job, SPORTS were his REWARD.not his motivator as his parent it was my job to make sure he understood that. EVERY parent is different i know that. you need to do what is best for your kid, but sorry i cant justify in my mind 141k for sports for MS for only SOME many who play multiple sports , while we make CUTs in education that effect ALL the students including your child..
Lorraine DeVita April 21, 2012 at 04:35 am
and i dare say i just stated what a large number of people in Seaford are thinking. Understand one thing i know you are frustrated as hell and very emotional and more then likely devasted but WE , this community did NOT do this to your kids. YOUR SCHOOL BOARD DID.
.Were there OTHER cuts that could have been made. probably, could it have been handled differently ofcourse. BUT in the scheme of things do you really feel MS sports are MORE important than your childs education? We cant always get what we want, but we should always get what we need. Pick and chose your fights Risa because the example you set for your child will be "My mom fought like hell for me to play MS sports" But why didnt she fight just as HARD to get me the best educational tools to help me be a better student. Priorities, parents establish them, children follow by example. What message are you sending your kids? Pls understand thats not being disrespectful or preaching thats coming from a place of experience from one Sports mom to another.
Good Dad April 21, 2012 at 12:26 pm
ALL SEAFORDITES pour yourself a cup of coffee and read The Patch's charts on all proposed School Budgets for Nassau County. Great Job Patch!!! Real EYE OPENER. North Merrick, North Bellmore, similar annual budgets- look at the #s.
Seaford is #1 increase. WOW is all I can say. Again- PATCH great example of Knowledge is Power people .
mo April 21, 2012 at 02:20 pm
My son also played on the Mustangs team. He was also chosen to play on three state team (selecting one that he recently played on). So trust me we drove ALL over for him to play. So no, middle school was not making him or breaking him as far as his talents. BUT playing for his school team made him so proud AND the respect he had from his coaches were priceless. I just want every parent to experience what we did. He's going to high school but I will continue to fight for this because there was so much positive that came out of it that I want other kids after him to have.
mo April 21, 2012 at 02:28 pm
I will add that between football and wrestling Seaford has AMAZING coaches that you can see they do it for the kids. They may get paid (not all) but they are such a great influence on these kids. Why not tell us on here what your experience is with these special coaches.
Chris Wendt April 21, 2012 at 02:35 pm
In the other district, the Board cut a popular BOCES program in developing their original budget proposal. The budget was defeated and a contingent budget was put in place, but with all sports and clubs cut. Sports and clubs were in the original budget that was defeated. Fundraising was undertaken for sports, for clubs, and for the popular BOCES program.
A subsequent legal opinion was received by the BoE that fundraising for the popular BOCES program was not allowed, because the Board had made that cut BEFORE the original budget was adopted. The gist of the decision was that citizens cannot decide to add programs by fundraising for programs that the BoE had not included in their original budget. That happened several years ago, and the regulations or the law, or the interpretation may have changed since that opinion was issued. I think this deserves further checking with your district's counsel. Depending upon the answer, a separate proposition to fund MS sports could be considered. A sports funding proposition should be for supplemental spending and contingent upon passage of the budget. In other words, no budget, no MS sports.
Lorraine DeVita April 21, 2012 at 04:05 pm
MO, a Few questions that sum up my perception of Seaford,- understand i am addressing these to ALL SPORT parents not just MO..
You mentioned his coaches, What about his teachers? Do you feel the same about them? Are THEY all as amazing, have they shown your child the same respect ? Is your child AS prepared educationaly as he is athleticaly? Is he as inspired educationally,? Do you as the parent interact with all his teachers as much as you do with the Coaches? Do you as a parent show as much INTEREST and place the same amount of emphasis and are As involved with his education as you are with his Athletics? Again, mo, this isnt addressed to you individualy this is addressed to ALL 'SPORT/Music etc. " parents. Thats where i feel the disconnect is. The emphasis is always placed on the "activity" be it sports or music or what ever. and yes while I agree they are important I fear We as a community place MORE emphasis on "Activities" then we do on education. If this community was as vocifierous and ACTIVE in their support of Education as they are for SPORTS, Music etc. these kids would have greater opportunites in the future..BETTER opportunities that will last them a lifetime, not just HS & MS feel good memories to look back on..
Maura April 21, 2012 at 06:14 pm
Sure other districts are providing Ipads to students and much more. Ask what is happening in those districts. Is the whole community including teachers, administration and other school employs part of the solution? I believe the budget is going to fail again. All this district wants to do is take from the families and children. We need the ENTIRE community to show that they are part of a solution. Their needs to be a "grand gesture" by those who have not taken an active roll in making a sacrifice.
Maura April 21, 2012 at 06:28 pm
I have a child that is preparing for college at this time. All my children are actively involved in sports some through school and some privately. I can tell you right now that what these colleges want to see is a strong academic history. There are so many academic scholarships and grants available. Very, very few athletic. Most importantly having recently spoken to NCAA representative, if your child does not do well academically they will not qualify to play sports at the college level. This is including SAT and ACT scores. I know that the parents who work tirelessly to raise money for middle school sports have the best of intentions. I just think we have to really think about how important it really is in the long run. If the district has ample money it should definitely be funded. I also think intramural is a viable alternative. I can keep the kids busy and active at much lower cost.
Lorraine DeVita April 22, 2012 at 01:27 pm
Perhaps Seaford Parents needs to see how our SAT/ACt scores compare to other districts,(I have no idea what the answer is ) Do the our guidance couselors hold a town meeting or open house nites for 10-11 &12 grade parents & students explaining to them the Competition to into college, what colleges are looking for?Is it explained that for evey opening in college there are atleast 2000 times that amount of kids submitting applications from across the country AND internationaly ?What emphasis colleges place on academic history, Does this district provide ACTION plans for EACH student a blue print they need to follow to get into college & STAY there. DO we offer parent courses on how to AFFORD college, what grants, scholarships are available from colleges and private sources , when , where & how to aply for them? Do parents understand that their child is not competing with the kids in their own class they ARE competing with kids all across this country & now internationaly to get into college, Seafords top ten maybe be somebodys bottom 25%The competition EDUCATIONALY is MORE fierce then any competition on the atheltic field. when we become fully cognizant as a community of that, support it embrace it, refocus our priorities to isure our kids are EDUCATIONALY prepared for the future when our administration GRASPS that fact , focuses their priorites drafting budgets, hiring people & support that philosophy understanding TRADITION needs to be replaced with VISION..
Lorraine DeVita April 22, 2012 at 01:40 pm
The world is evolving, Seaford needs to EVOLVE & change if we dont then no matter what amount of money we pay or dont pay we are doing ourselves and these students a grave injustice. Traditions are fine, however dont make them shackles that hold us back from being better then we were and can be..
Crafting an AFFORDBALE Educationaly sound budget that meets the ACADEMIC needs of ALL students first and foremost should be this communities, this Boards and Adminsitrations ONLY goal. Does this Budget DO that?
mo April 22, 2012 at 03:55 pm
But yet since you and I are going back and fourth you ARE addressing this to me. So, to answer your questions. Yes, yes and yes. I am VERY active in all aspects of my children's education. It's very judgemental of you to assume that just because parents care about sports that we dont care about education. That could not be further from the truth. I have been saving for both my kids college educations since they were babies and EDUCATION is always first in my house. We discuss as a family how they have a better chance of getting a scholarship for acedemics then for sports. But I still wouldnt let them not try for both. THIS article subject is about SPORTS so that's what I am addressing. Simply put I have paid taxes for 17 years for all the children before mine to have a sports program and now that my children are at the age to enjoy it, it's not here. So am I pissed? You bet. So I will continue to not complain about it but to do something about it. Belive it or not it seems like you and I are the same spitfires and I know you will need the last word on this so out of respect (which is how my momma raised me) I will grant you that.

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