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Seaford Considers Eight Period Schedule for 2013/14 Budget

Superintendent says cutting from current nine period model at secondary level is one option on the table as district faces having to slash around $2.3 million due to tax cap rules and loss of state aid.

With an estimated $2.3 million in cuts needed to comply with new tax cap rules, the Seaford Board of Education has some difficult decisions ahead.

One possible educational cut that the district is exploring in order to avoid exceeding the tax cap would be dropping to eight period days at Seaford High School and Seaford Middle School. Seaford Superintendent Brian Conboy said during Thursday's night school board meeting that reducing from the current nine period schedules at the secondary level would save $600,000 at the middle school and $850,000 at the high school.


Conboy said Seaford has had a nine period day for grades six through 12 since the early 1980s, which has allowed for increased electives, advanced placement courses, team-planning and remedial programs when needed. He said going to eight periods would mean only state-mandated subjects would be offered at Seaford Middle School, which would result in a reduction of six teachers. Seaford High School would lose eight teaching positions if it were to adopt an eight-period model, Conboy stated.

"The one thing that comes from an eight-period day is the lengthening of the class period so there is more instructional time, however the draconian cuts to the program in the eight period day are not an easy trade-off for a few additional minutes in each period," said Conboy during Thursday's board meeting held at the Seaford Harbor School. "This is not an easy thing to talk about."

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Conboy said the only Nassau County high school that currently has an eight period day is Glen Cove.

Other Long Island districts are exploring going to an eight period schedule because a drop in state aid and the challenge of adhering to new tax cap laws. In Seaford's case, when factoring in required payments to the Teacher's Retirement System, the district is permitted a 3.56 tax levy increase for the 2013/14 school year. An executive budget proposal released by Gov. Andrew Cuomo in January has Seaford losing 6.88 percent in state aid.

Another area the district may explore trying to come up with savings for the 2013/14 budget is reverting back to half-day kindergarten after expanding to a full-day program only a few years ago. Conboy said reducing to half-day kindergarten would reduce about $350,000 from the budget.

Seaford school board trustees went through every line of the current budget to come up with other savings to try and avoid going to an eight period day or cutting back on kindergarten sessions. Some areas mentioned where savings could be achieved without impacting programs are in expenses for public relations, security for special events, school field trips, fuel costs and money allocated for Nassau County's water tax. Trustee Susan Ruona also suggested exploring an intramural program at Seaford Middle School in the fall, winter and spring rather than trying to fund a full-fledged athletics program those seasons.

"Everything has to be on the table including sports," said Richard DiBlasio, vice president of the Seaford school board.

"We're not going to find $2.3 million in pens and papers," said Brin Fagan, president of the Seaford Board of Education of the challenge facing the district this budget cycle.

Conboy said he is hopeful that Seaford will get some additional state aid before Albany lawmakers adopt a budget by the end of March. He said the district's goal is to adopt a budget proposal by April 11.

Additional budget discussions are scheduled for school board meetings on March 14, March 21 and April 4. A budget hearing is slated for May 9 with a vote on the spending plan taking place May 21.

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JG March 9, 2013 at 03:38 pm
Agreed
Constance Roland March 9, 2013 at 05:09 pm
@lorraine.. You really surprised me with your FOIL result, checked with IT people, and yes, you are correct.. Overpaid for the position given its limitations and highly suspect that there is no job description... Thank you.
save seaford March 9, 2013 at 05:16 pm
I cannot beleive we are paying a salary of 172K for the IT person. I hope you are not adding in benefits which would inflate the number. If you have proof of this 172K salary please post it.
old miller March 9, 2013 at 06:08 pm
A further thought-
An 8 period day shifts the balance of a teacher's daily responsibility back in favor of what he or she was hired to do. Under the current 9-period plan, each full time teacher provides 200 minutes of instruction (5 x 40 minute period) per day. The remaining 160 minutes are spent prepping (allegedly), supervising a lunch room or study hall, and eating lunch... That is4/9 of each day. When utilizing an 8-period schedule, instructional time jumps to 225 minutes per day while time spent on non-instructional activities drops to 135 minutes, or 3/8 of each day. In the end, I have no problem with teachers being treated and compensated as professionals. They are. But there is A LOT of down time that should be reallocated to place the emphasis back on what teachers are paid to do.... Teach.
Lorraine DeVita March 9, 2013 at 07:43 pm
Mr Phillips announced it at the budget committee meeting- ask him.Matter of fact HE corrected ME, I was bemoaning the fact that the old contract was 134k he CORRECTED me and stated new conctract new salary line =172k- and no to my knowlegde that # does not include benefit $'s. . Feel free to foil it - and no I cant beleive it either nor can a few people with similiar titles in other districts. but hey we have NO money for technology !!!! ( if Mr philiips is wrong then my appologizes now if i am spreading MIS information , but the man said it, he IS the short term Asst Sup for Business so i am assuming he knows what he is talking about and two other people in the meeting confirmed it also) and quite frankly i am tired of fighting the IT Director battle on my own, if anyone else with kids in school ( i dont) would care to carry the flag on this issue it would be nice because it insults the intelligence of the taxpayers, and more importantly & literaly ROBS YOUR students of much needed technology !
USA March 10, 2013 at 11:52 pm
Shouldn't the persistent issue be additional tax to the residents via piercing the TAXCAP? Doing this ensures the necessary additional revenues to support ALL programs, does it not? If no additional TAX is the solutions then CUTS it has to be in one form or another. Are the CBA offlmits? Pension and Healthcare are mandated. Could they be unmandated? Or is that unconstitutional or sacriligous?
USA March 11, 2013 at 12:46 am
Let's examine all of the available options without exception
Lorraine DeVita March 11, 2013 at 02:10 am
http://web.jerichoschools.org/finance/Budget1213/UnderstandingTheTaxLevyCap.pdf
http://web.jerichoschools.org/finance/Budget1213/index.htm The above is from the Jericho SD Budget presentation last yr. . Perhaps it will offer some insight - on What the tax levy and tax cap does and doesnt do. and why. Just understand that last yr our voter approved budget in Seaford was 2.3+% and MOST homeowners in Seaford received a tax bill with increases well over $800 -1k . So do the math... 3.+% or higher has the possibiltiy to clean EVERYONES wallets so to speak. Well not everyone, some people get raises- unlike the rest of us.
Lorraine DeVita March 12, 2013 at 02:50 pm
I just find it VERY odd that Seaford has nearly as many NYSLRS employees (NON teaching )as they do NYSTRS employees(teachers) and Seafords so called UNDER paid teachers mean average salary EXCEEDS both Wantagh and Jericho SD's.
Wantagh 440 NYSTRS employees @ 31+ million, Wantagh 200 NYSLRS employees @6+ Million 31% LRS employees vs 68.7% TRS employees Seaford 294 NYSTRS employees @ $25 milion(teachers) Seaford 203 NYSLRS employees @ $5+ million (non Teaching) 41% LRS employees vs 59.7% TRS employees Jericho 448 NYSTRS employees @46.8 million(teaching ) Jericho 289 NYSLRS employees @ 12+ Million (non Teaching) 39% LRS employees 61% TRS employees And please notice that even thought we have significantly fewer NYSTRS employees then either Wantagh or Jericho our TOTAL salary line is not AS proportionatly LOWER .Matter of fact Seaford is the HIGHEST TRS mean average salary. Teaching positions Seaford 294 TRS employees = $105K average Wantagh 440 TRS employees = $70K average Jericho 448 TRS employees = $104k average Data from See thru NY
Lorraine DeVita March 12, 2013 at 02:55 pm
According to the lastest reported figures @ see thru NY refelcting 2010 pension costs.
Seaford has 245 retired TRS employees totaling 13,778, 970 in pension costs Wantagh has 292 retired TRS employees totaling 16,220,484 in pension costs Jericho has 280 retired TRS employees totaling 20,456,445 in pension costs Seaford Budget 2012-2013 =57+million 24% in TRS pension costs Wantagh budget 2012-2013 =71+ million 22% in TRS Pension Costs Jerichos Budget 2012-2013 = $114 +million 17% in TRS Pension costs. These numbers DO NOT include Benefit costs for TRS employee and families nor does it include ERS/LRs employee pension costs. This is strictly TRS pension numbers as per See thru NY.
Lorraine DeVita March 12, 2013 at 05:30 pm
Question- when a UFT local contract negotiation can not be reached does the current terms and conditons apply for ALL of the contract yrs or just the last year as a carry over:
3 yr contract- yr 1= 3% raise, yr 2= 3.5 % raise, yr 3 = 4% raise. is the entire contract raise schedule to be followed until a negotiation is reached or just the last years schedule .? If it is JUST the last yrs terms would someone then pls smarten up and offer the LOWEST amount in the last yr..rather then the highest?
Michael R March 12, 2013 at 06:25 pm
Lorraine can you FOIL or post the names of the non teachers positions in the Seaford School District???
I would be interested to see how many are relatives of School board personnel, board members, and teachers in our district. Also past PTA presidents and current ones. As they costs continue to spiral we need to get a real look at what is happening here in our little town.
Lorraine DeVita March 12, 2013 at 06:33 pm
@ Michael-
http://seethroughny.net/ 2012 SCHOOLS Seaford UFSD The group you want in SEAFORD UFSD is NYSLRS employees for non teaching positions Gives you a list of the LRS employees names and salaries as of 2012 If you chose NYSTRS gives you a list of TEACHER names and salaries as of 2012 you can also search pensions in a simliar manner. Fairly easy to use website. Rather informative. Pls note it does not reflect current contracts recently negotiated, any additional stipends nor step increases this is base salary only for all employees. also does not include benefit dollars. Happy reading
Lorraine DeVita March 12, 2013 at 06:38 pm
It is safe to assume a VAST majority of your PTA executive boards including presidents, VP chairs etc as well as members have been or are currently on the SD payroll in one form or another.
Jim March 12, 2013 at 09:16 pm
There are no percentage raises given on an expired contract regardless of the last contract or final year. The only increases is in step raises or educational incentives
Lorraine DeVita March 13, 2013 at 12:21 am
@ Jim
Thanks for the clarification , I did not know that. So if i understand correctly all other T&C;s carry over EXCEPT any annual salary increase %'s? You mentioned "educational incentives"? Care to elaborate ? What exactly are those? What little hidy hole/ line item/ budget code are those dollars kept in?
Jim March 13, 2013 at 01:21 am
@ Loraine, that is correct. T&C's of the contracts specify raises to occur on specific dates (ex 3% raise on 1/31/2012). Therefore when the contract expires there are no more raises. As per the Triborough Amendment, other terms of the contract remain in effect (ex # of sick days, grievance processes work rules ect). Step raises specify that the employee will get increases at anniversaries of hire date (ex 10 year, 20 year). That is not linked to current contract status. There are also educational incentive raises for advanced degrees (masters, masters+30, phd). These are also not linked to current contract status.
Lorraine DeVita March 13, 2013 at 01:38 am
@ Comstance just thought i would share this with you to underline my FRUSTRATION
- Barbara Murdock Takes Helm As Jericho’s District Data Manager Barbara Murdock- District DATA Manager = 2012 Salary 62k (see thru NY) Barbara Murdock comes to the Jericho School District with an extensive data background and a strong focus in educational data applications. Ms. Murdock most recently worked for Nassau BOCES in the Curriculum Institution Technology Department as a Data Analyst where she was a member of the Data Warehouse team. Previously she was a computer consultant, which allowed her to work with several Nassau County School Districts including Valley Stream, Oyster Bay-East Norwich, and Plainedge, as well as Dowling College. Ms. Murdock began her career as a software programmer for the Unisys Corporation. Ms. Murdock is excited to join the Jericho team and has already made a seamless transition in her role replacing Mark Steinberger, who recently retired. Jericho REclassifed the position from Director of Technology to DATA Manager when Marck Steinberger retired . and WE in Seaford have a Director of technology with a newly negotiated contract and DID not even comptemplate downgrading the title & seeking other individuals. WORK SMART HIRE SMART -
Seaford Citizen March 13, 2013 at 02:14 am
@Lorraine - why do you always go back to the IT department at our schools every time someone says budget? Have you seen the operating budget that they need to work within to support the infrastructure of 4 schools? The IT Director does not make 172k. If I am not mistaken his salary is governed by the same contract the teachers are held to - I don’t think he was given a 30% raise. I am not sure who has their facts wrong on that - but it is not true. The IT Department in Seaford is just like any IT department in a company. The first place that gets hit when budgets get cut is IT. I believe you have an extensive IT background - you should know this. Every year the budget was voted down the IT department in Seaford was running with a keep the lights on budget. No improvements and keep everything going. When things break - fix it because you can’t buy anything new. This past year even when they were approved for improvements - their budget is still under a million dollars out of a 54 million dollar budget. Do you know how much the IT improvements that were implemented this year saved this school district? Not for nothing but you should be thankful that there is a cost savings from the improvements that he made instead of constantly hammering the guy for operating the previous three years on a skeleton budget.
Lorraine DeVita March 13, 2013 at 03:21 am
@ Seaford Citizen- WHY? For the VERY same reason you are speaking about- the STATE of technology in Seaford . You are mistaken his contract is NOT governed by the teachers contract. He has his own contract and is an Administrator not a teacher. I suggest you do what I did and FOIL his quals and background and contract. My particular problem is we are paying an UNDER qualified individual a salary level FAR exceeding his experience and qualifications. THAT money could be better spent ON actual technology and ON the students.
WHo you employ and WHY is very telling and goes ] to the effectiveness of your business management skills , accumen, knowledge and expertise. we have no money for equpiment or infrastructure but explain to me what the line items for Consulting fees were for in IT to the tune i beleive of 450K in the 2011-2012 budget Repairs? That is equipment. maintenance not consulting fee's>go look at the line items for IT two years ago -The ONLY credit i will give him is the abilty to pull the wool over people eyes..and get paid a ridiculous salary at the expense of the students. and the taxpayers. Do your research then come back and tell us all what made him qualified for the position. and what justifes his salary? He is COSTING us DEARLY!
Seaford Citizen March 13, 2013 at 04:26 am
Do you know what those consulting services are for? Do you know the services that are provided for under those contracts? Do you know what those consultants roles are? Do you know if they are necessary? What do you really know of the exact condition of the technology of our school? And if we get rid of the IT director who will run the technology in the school? If you think he is doing such a terrible job why didn't you apply for the job? The man can not spend money to improve the schools technology without a budget. He has had no budget prior to this year. It's impossible. I don't need to research his qualifications I know what they are. I'm an IT professional with a degree in A completely different field. So does that make me unqualified to work in IT for the last 20 years? Did you see where Steve Jobs went to college? You think his administrative contract called for a 30% raise this year? Lets use common sense on that one. You throw numbers and information around like you know all of the details and attack a guy on a public forum with no actual facts - just opinions. I think you have a personal issue with him and should pick a different avenue for your soap box or get the job yourself.
Lorraine DeVita March 13, 2013 at 01:20 pm
Seaford Citizen- I will give you an example and then i will stop becasue it is like beating a dead horse . Like most homeowners my husband can FIX a leaky sink can fix a light switch install light and keep most of this house in fairly good running order. He has "knowldge" HOWEVER he is NOT a plumber or electrician he is not licensed nor does he profess to be, nor could he get a job as one, nor would anyone offer him nor could he command a salary that only top trained professionals would receive. He saves us money by keeping things together until a professional needs to be called in. Is everything done to code when he fixes it or done to specs or done in such a way that will not cost us money later on down the line? probably not(sorry babe) but the lights works the faucet doesnt leak and the toilet flushes. He is cheap labor for quick fixes . Would some one hire him to wire or plumb their house? would a construction company bring him on as a MASTER plumber or electrician at top pay and hand him the reins of a construction project? again i highly doubt it.
Lorraine DeVita March 13, 2013 at 01:36 pm
Let me ask you this - Would you as an IT professional take on the position AND the responsibiltiy of running an IT department in a 50 million dollar company if you had no prior expereince ? More importantly WHO in their right mind would hire you at top pay? Listen this guy could be the nicest guy in the world and i am sure he is, he is also learning a lot and gaining alot of on the job expereince thru intitation by fire. THAT still does not justify two things
TOP tier SALARY and this district NOT seeking once again the MOST qualified person for the position in the first place and not classifying and titling the position to work with the skills he did bring to the table . AT BEST if they wanted to reward him for stepping to the plate and helping out as BC stated then title the job as IT MANAGER - at around 60k while you diligently search for someone who has the expertise , experience skill sets to do the job of DIRECTOR of IT @ a salary of 110K. BOth of which is the norm.. WE ARE the COSTLY exception. As to the consulting fees- LMAO- i dare say whom ever got that fee is laughing their asses off as they run to bank ..you tell ME what that was for and why and what did we get for it? More importantly what did the students GET for it? thats a big chunk of change my friend for any industry to throw at a consultant. We cant afford to reward people for stepping up the students deserve better the taxpayers should demand better & the BOE / ADMIN should KNOW better.
Lorraine DeVita March 13, 2013 at 02:13 pm
My gripe is NOT with him- I feel for the guy - My gripe is with the BOE and the ADMIN for NOT doing their due diligence - for NOT following their own policy and procedures for not taking their fidcuiary responsibilty seriously & hiring someone that was THE MOST qualfied for the position, title and pay. THEY are at fault and not the guy they handed the job to. THATS the CRUX of the matter. WHO they hire and WHY and at what cost. to the taxpayers & to the students.! And to the incumbant i am truly sorry because it does seem like i am bashing you , when in fact you just took a position offered to you. The underlying problem is not the person who took the job its with the people who OFFERED him the job. THAt I lay directly at the feet of the ADMIN and the BOE. follow your own policies and procedures - DILIGENTLY SEEK the MOST qualified person for the job.
Sal Triolo March 13, 2013 at 03:39 pm
The matter at hand is simple for any to see
solving this matter is a bureaucratic impossibility For the people responsible for solving this mess are the very people who will never agree to live with less Superintendents, Specialty Care and Administrative Overhead are sinking the district with 100 tons of custom suited lead Consolidation of districts is the obvious path Sparing the teachers, while Admins take a bath But the Admins will never agree to this place they'll hang on till the bitter end to save their space Stock up their pension benefits right up to the max While the Admins cut your football, soccer and lax They pull on your heart strings with these recurring tacts Distract your attention while your home value retracts Divided they conquer with these shameless ploys Turning neighbor on neighbor while they remain in your employ Cutting the overhead is the way to lean and nimble in a district like Seaford, barely the size of a thimble But the Admins will continue their path of self salvation Until the State demands the inevitable consolidation Teachers we need and deserve much more But the Admins are eating right into your core Your sports will be gone, your band will be toast Direct your attention to the Admin issue this spring The march to Albany is not the right focus to ring The problem must be solved right here in this town Asking Albany for handouts is just sand to pound
old miller March 13, 2013 at 11:50 pm
Sal needs an effective, oops, I mean "highly effective," 100k+ English teacher to review poetic devices, rhythm, and meter with him.
Seaford Citizen March 14, 2013 at 01:22 pm
110k isnt enough to deal with this nonsense.
Lorraine DeVita March 14, 2013 at 01:58 pm
The fact of the matter is the ECONOMIC situation in Education and specifcially in Seaford does not support and more importantly CAN NOT support raises of any kind for anyone .PERIOD .
The focus and goal should be to EDUCATE students at a resonable and somewhat SUSTAINABLE cost to the tax payers. CANT keep spending or lining pockets with money we dont have ...and better to clean the 'back of the house", then continue to TAKE AWAY from the students. or dont you agree that the STUDENTs should be the PRIMARY focus and consideration and NOT the employees, their pockets & "feelings" and if someone doesnt LIKE receivnig a salary thats customary and resonable for the position , job function, thats commiserate with their experience expertise & qualifications then pls dont let the door hit ya on the way out.
old miller March 14, 2013 at 09:00 pm
Perhaps the same teacher could review sentence structure, apostrophe and comma usage, spelling, and capitalization rules with Lorraine.
Talk about getting 'more bang for the buck.'
Lorraine DeVita March 15, 2013 at 12:25 am
@ old miller - LOL.. too true! i could use all the help i can get- no issue here!

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