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Seaford Tax Cap May Be Limited to .68 Percent

Superintendent says complex formula in new 2 percent tax cap rule with building aid limits district to a far smaller increase.

What appeared to be a boost when the Seaford School District received a spike in building aid last month has now turned into a curse.

Seaford Superintendent Brian Conboy explained during Thursday night’s Board of Education meeting that the district was alerted Wednesday about how the extra building aid will negatively affect how they are impacted by the new 2 percent tax cap rule passed by Albany lawmakers last summer. Conboy said a complex formula built within the tax cap law means that as a result of the $2.2 million in building aid Seaford is receiving for completed projects from a 2007 $21.5 million capital improvements bond, the district is only allowed to increase its tax levy by .68 percent.

“Seaford may be one of the only districts in New York State that does not have the ability to at least propose a 2 percent tax cap for a minimum vote,” said Conboy during Thursday’s school board meeting held at Seaford Manor School

Seaford Assistant Superintendent for Business Ken Aldrich said under a .68 percent tax levy increase, the district would need to slash $862,839 to maintain current programs and staff levels. Under a 2 percent tax levy hike, the district would be looking at having to cut around $250,000, Aldrich said. A tax levy is the total amount that a district must raise in property taxes in order to meet expenses.

Conboy called and sent letters to Assemblyman David G. McDonough, R-North Merrick, and State Sen. Charles Fuschillo, R-Merrick, to see if emergency legislation can be adopted to assist districts like Seaford facing unusual circumstances that limit allowable increases far below the 2 percent tax cap. Districts are supposed to post their tax cap-related figures for the 2012/13 school year by March 1. Conboy pointed out in his letter to Fuschillo and McDonough read at the school board meeting that in addition to operating on a contingency budget, Seaford has the second lowest per pupil spending of all 56 districts in Nassau County.

“This restriction places a crippling and additional burden on us making the development of any financially conservative budget plan for the 12/13 school year, virtually impossible,” Conboy wrote in his letter to the two local Albany lawmakers. “I ask in the greatest urgency that the New York State Legislature act swiftly to examine the situations within the state for the few districts that are in a similar situation with a less than 2 percent tax levy increase restriction.”

The latest blow Seaford was dealt from the state drew frustration from school board members including vice president Richard DiBlasio who stated in his closing remarks during Thursday’s meeting, “Albany, we have a problem.”

“I feel like we were slammed,” DiBlasio said. “The people I feel sorry for are the children.”

The Seaford school board is planning to begin crafting its 2012/13 budget during its March 1 work session and then continue with weekly meetings throughout the month. Conboy said if Seaford is stuck at a .68 percent tax levy cap, many staff cuts will have to be made.

“Right now were in a prepare for the worst hope for the best situation,” he said. “We have to proceed with our budget planning as if the worst is going to come true.”

Lorraine DeVita February 23, 2012 at 02:39 am
I AM considering it.. however my main focus right now is my daughters wedding on. 3-10.. after that well you never know perhaps i will..if nothing else it would be a VERY interesting & Vocal race if I did !
Seaford will quake, rattle & roll.
Lorraine DeVita February 23, 2012 at 03:20 am
We need to address WHERE the kids are going to college and WHY.
Everyone needs to understand Seafords students have great potential, they are bright kids. When looking at the colleges they go to we ALL must consider the financials. Some of our students simply can not afford to go to big name colleges BECASUE of the taxes and the economy. It just isnt in the budget for alot of families. We need as a community to address that ALONG with the quality and caliber of education we provide them here in Seaford.to prepare them. I would love to see this community band together for an annual Seaford scholarship fund raising endevour. We raise funds for all sorts of sports and activities however we dont raise funds for scholarships! WHY? k-12 is the foundation, We need to insure we give them the best foundation we can, we ALSO need to understand that sometimes a little financial help for college goes a long way when your family is struggling just to meet the monthly bills. Fund raise for EDUCATIONAL Scholarships with the same zeal and dedication and hard work we do for sports and other activities.
Lorraine DeVita February 23, 2012 at 02:10 pm
Well i answered my own question- from what i could find I think it is FLORAL PARK,/Bellrose under the supervision of our own Past Manor Prinicpal,Superintendent Lynn Pombanyo (who is retiring this year)
Take a peek at their spending habits - their technology plan, and then take a look at ours. you will be slightly SHOCKED and dismayed at the difference in priorities.
Tom February 23, 2012 at 10:07 pm
Cop out, I think not. It is the truth. Whether you are in Washington, Albany or Seaford, it is compromise that gets things done. While I may not personally agree with the values held by the majority in the community, this was the will of the people. Hopefully, the people can come together now and realize that we have some real challenges ahead. Name calling and grandstanding won't carry he day, intelligent discussion relative to what our children really need will. The past really doesn't matter now that we have been dealt a completely new hand. We will need to think outside of the box in order to put children first. The district is really between a rock and a hard place in that, based upon a .68% tax levy cap, we are essentially limited to austerity-level thinking even before the vote has been cast.
Escape LI February 24, 2012 at 01:52 am
The article says that under a .68 percent tax levy increase, the district would need to slash $862,839 to maintain current programs and staff levels. Has anyone asked just why costs have gone up so much that even with a tax increase they still need to slash $862,839 to maintain current programs?
Lorraine DeVita February 24, 2012 at 04:19 am
While we cant correct the past, we CAN learn from it and move forward . I may not be the most politically correct, never have been & probably wont be, i am by all intent purposes in your face. & scare/anger alot of people with my frankness. I dont sugar coat anything.Bascially if your acting like a idiot i am going to tell you just as i would expect YOU to tell me. I try my best to base my opinions and statements on fact. While it may seem to some i am ANTI Seaford it is the complete opposite I have lived here for 37 yrs, i am truly truly frustrated that our kids our community have year after been sold down the river by a small but very vocal group of misguidely well intentioned people who cant seem to realize that we NEED to change & evolve. What was fine 20 years ago can not and does not work today. The economy has turned upside down, home values have decreased, taxes have skyrocketed the quality of life that everyone is fighting for is going down the drain, I can appreicate wanting to keep things like they were 20 even 10 years ago but the fact of the matter is we CANT. We do ourselves , our students a great disservice by living in &hanging onto the past ,not looking to, planning preparing for the REALITY of the future. WE are going to have to bite a VERY big bullett, WE need to come to a common ground on what is & isnt important.
Lorraine DeVita February 24, 2012 at 04:45 am
ANF this board needs to fully look at WHO is & isnt important or worth the cost rather then making ridiculous polical excuses while gingerly side stepping their responsibiltiy to the students and the community. While we may not be top heavy we need to analize WHO we have , why we have them & what value do they bring to the table. Why did we re-hire a retired individual who recieved one of the higest pensions BACK P/T in a Directors postions? ? How does that effect future pension payments? These are the types of things that need to be addressed but no one does.
Lorraine DeVita February 24, 2012 at 03:19 pm
It was her suggestion, not something she heard. lets not get rumors started that will inflame - She SUGGESTED IT...
ap February 28, 2012 at 01:20 pm
It is time the members of the Seaford community become informed about exactly what is going on. The turf field and music wing were part of a bond issued thats main purpose was to fix our crumbling schools. The schools are this districts biggest asset and need to be maintained. The turf field and music wing made up approximately 26% of the total amount of the bond. 60% of the total amount borrowed is returned in the form of state aid during the 20 years it takes to repay the bond. Can the kids do without a turf field? yes, but it made financial sense to include it with the other updates and get a larger amount of state aid. Additionally,the track we had was dangerous and unusable. Cindy B shame on you for not knowing the FACTS. The reason your tax levy has gone through the roof in recent years has nothing to do with the bond and the updates made to the school. It clearly has to do with a rising healthcare costs and a broken TRS system. That is where you need focus your negativity and write to your legislators in Albany.
Lorraine DeVita February 28, 2012 at 01:37 pm
ap-Thank you , that is good information to know. I am sure the community is supportive of maintaining its facilities and eliminating unsafe areas. My question to you is this:
Justification for a New Music wing VERSUS inproving and upgrading technology infrastructure? Justification for a TURF field versus investing in a less grandeous field with SOLAR lights combined with infrastructure improvements, The returns would be the same wouldnt they, they ALL qualified . I seriously doubt the STATE would refund MORe for a TURF FIELD then for technology improvements, but then again crazier things happen in Albany. its the CHOICES that were made that we may differ on.. Again thanks for the info..
Lorraine DeVita February 28, 2012 at 03:52 pm
I challenge every one to go to 5 of the top SD websites-
READ what these communities are doing, what their priorities are or got o the PATCH locations and read THEIR school news, Pull up EACH Sd's Technology plan on their Sd website read it and weep then go to Seaford Sd website and read OUR Technology plan, then laugh or cry. I specifically point out Technology becaseu thats what i am expert in so i can make an informed comment THEN request a foil on all the Administration and adminsitrativ personnel in Seaford like i did and find out what qualificaitons these poeple have for these positions. What expereince and what salaries, Request a foil on JOB descriptions, responsibilities, Job Ads and salaries again like i did .. THEN go to ANY educational or Career Recruiting web site and pull a comp. THEN either laugh your ass off or shake your head and say what the hell is going on.. These are issues that are ignored not discussed or swept under the rug. THESE are issues that frustrate the hell out me and others because if your house isnt in line , if it isnt run properly by the right people with the right qualifications making decisions then everyhting else is suspect. Ask for a foil for the UTS current contract, then go look up Jerichos , go line by line on each and every item, and decide if Seaford teachers are under paid or if Seafords Boards just handed them a blank contract and said fill in the blanks however you like , just dont make it TOO obvious.
Lorraine DeVita February 28, 2012 at 04:11 pm
Find out what the qualifications are, what courses it takes to become an "administrator"
Find out how many other Sd;s or businesses for that matter ASK their employees to write their own job descriptions and responsibilties.. How can we recruite when there is NO job description! No qualifications? request a FOIL like i did on contracts for Administrators along with the specific job ads and descriptions for those jobs You dont need to be CEO of a company or an HR specialist, or have even held a job to realize HOW We do business, how we educate is reflective of the WHO.
Escape LI February 28, 2012 at 04:50 pm
From the NY Times: To Pay New York Pension Fund, Cities Borrow From It First
When New York State officials agreed to allow local governments to use an unusual borrowing plan to put off a portion of their pension obligations, fiscal watchdogs scoffed at the arrangement, calling it irresponsible and unwise. And now, their fears are being realized: cities throughout the state, wealthy towns such as Southampton and East Hampton, counties like Nassau and Suffolk, and other public employers like the Westchester Medical Center and the New York Public Library are all managing their rising pension bills by borrowing from the very same $140 billion pension fund to which they owe money. Across New York, state and local governments are borrowing $750 million this year to finance their contributions to the state pension system, and are likely to borrow at least $1 billion more over the next year. The number of municipalities and public institutions using this new borrowing mechanism to pay off their annual pension bills has tripled in a year.
AP February 28, 2012 at 05:51 pm
Agreed. In 2010 were were in the middle of the greatest financial crisis this country has seen since the depression, with a looming explosion of rising contributions to the TRS and ERS retirement systems. Stock market performance directly impacts the burden of these contributions by our community. Our administration and board members should have realized the impending doom( it was on the news everyday) instead they chose to conduct negotiations with the teachers union in a business as usual fashion. We ( the children of this community ) are paying the price for that right now. This is where they lost the faith of many community members. Drastic cuts are on the horizon again, and once again they come from the 20% of the budget that is not, salary benefits and retirement contributions. We value our teachers, but its common sense that the some of the cuts need to come from the other 80% of the budget. It should have happened in 2010, make sure it happens next time the contract is up.
Lorraine DeVita February 28, 2012 at 06:19 pm
Unfortunately for the 2013 contract negotiation with the UTS we in Seaford are once again going to be stuck between a rock and a hard place. Thanks to the Triboro amendment even if we say NO increases we are screwed . the triboro amendment insures that the teachers will live with the current contract . not allowing us to cut anything BELOW what they currently have. in effect if the teacher wont voluntairly conceed to a salary reduction or freeze etc, and wont work with the districts then basically Seaford and the rest of NYS is screwed. PLs explain to me how this fair to the taxpayers ? This is a state LAW which MUSt be repealed in order to allow good faith negotiations on both parts rather then the gun to the head tactics currently allowed. Write ALBANY APPEAL to appeal the Triboro amendment....
mary hayes February 28, 2012 at 11:54 pm
This blog remains curious to me...how can some call themselves "experts in technology" without giving sufficient background to support a self-proclaimed announcement?!? Who calls themself an expert? I am not sure that this, in and of itself, is worthy of such a proclomation. Others call into play that the pension plan for teachers is "nothing less than a pozzi scheme" REALLY? Is this person talking about all state pension funds? Teachers are not the only ones who receive a state pension. Should we forget how important other public employees are to our county? I would love to hear others point of view.,
Lorraine DeVita February 29, 2012 at 03:40 am
retired President and founding owner of an International technology consulting group .GTIS
27+ years experience in voice and data , Numerous technical certifications - IT Analysis, VOIP , Communications Construction Management, CRM, Project Executive, Previous expereince - Exec VP of a Data consulting firm Telcom & Technical Sales Manager @ AT&T HR manager @AT&T for international employees. Consultant liason to VERIZON< MITEL< LUCENT< AT&T and numerous other companies Consultant on call for Gerson Learman so yeah darling being OTHERS in the industry consider me an EXPERT i can state that.. I also was an active PTa member chairing many committees, President of the Council of PTAs, Brownie and Girl scout leader, Fund raiser for the Broncos, Seaford little league and Massapequa Mustangs. Invited Speaker @ C-21 convention on networking-as well as SIA,SBA..and other organizations Member of Women in Technology and Women in Business wife, mother & grandmother and mommy to two wheaton terriers. and you do WHAT exactly Ms Hayes?
SSteacher February 29, 2012 at 03:45 am
Mary, as most informed people know, Wall Street is what hurt the pension system in NYS. As most informed people know, local districts payed nothing for years when the market was doing great. When Wall Street gambles and loses, everyone pays. The current pension system has enough money to cover every single employee currently employed until death. People on here are bitter and angry towards teachers because they do not understand the job. There is no doubt that the tax cap is going to hurt education as it hurt public education in California. People are just short sighted.
Lorraine DeVita February 29, 2012 at 03:52 am
i also LOVE to cook , entertain , travel, , cant "type"/Text/Key to save my life, love to garden. go boating ..
oh wait also chaired the seaford blood drive.. Son went to Chaminade, Daughter to Holy Trinity - BOTH are very senior well respected executives in their fields. Grew up in Westchester.. I will be 60 on the 16th of this month, married 40 years have 2 Kia.s and Hyundai.. I can also send you a copy of my resume if you would like.
Wayne Smith February 29, 2012 at 10:35 am
Mary -
Since I made the comment about "ponzi schemes" I'll respond. I made this snarky comment in response to a NY Times piece highlighted by "Escape LI" describing how municipalities and other government entitites are now borrowing money from pension funds so they can turn around and make payments to those same pension funds. One of the chracteristics of a Ponzi scheme involves an attempt to obscure the fact that its net liquid asset value is either stagnant or declining by continuing to make payments or service redemptions out of investment principal iinstead of investment returns. This results in a situation in which those investors, or in the case of a pension fund, those pensioners, expecting a payout in the future are actually, unbeknownst to them, at further risk of never seeing those payments at all. In extreme cases, future payments never get made. Presumably, in the case of a pension fund, they are essentially replacing liquid assets (i.e.money) with an i.o.u. from the government. But obviously a pensioner doesn't want an i.o.u. - they want money. To put this into further perspective, if an investment fund of any scale engaged in this kind of activity it's very likely they could look forward to a visit from the friendly folks at the SEC. The fact that we're talking about a public employee pension fund instead, doesn't change the true nature of the kind of shaky measures these funds are taking.
Wayne Smith February 29, 2012 at 10:52 am
Ok, a little perspective here. It's certainly true that stock market declines starting in 2007 really hurt pension funds, but that's far from the only problem. On top of this, don't look now, but the S&P may very well be back to its 2007 levels by this year, so why do we still have a big problem with pensions?
Three reasons: (1) The government, in the form of the Fed, is enforcing a low interest rate policy; meanwhile most public employee pension funds assume an annual return of 7% or more - wholly unrealistic in this day and age; (2) People are livlng a lot longer - obviously you wouldn't call this a "problem" but it's certainly a factor in terms of underfunded pensions plans and finally (3) As a result, pension plans are just plain too rich, given the diminished net worth of the plans themselves. This is why you see pension managers cozying up to hedge fund managers and other types of "Wall Street" investment funds we all like to demonize. They know they're underfunded, they know that the days of getting enough return out of safe fixed income investments is gone, and so like everyone else they're chasing yield. I don't work on Wall Street, and I'm not an apologist for what has gone on since 2007, but I do think we need to be clear about the chalenges we face. Pension plans are underfunded - there's not enough money to cover future obligations - which is why taxpayers are being forced to pony up more.
SSteacher February 29, 2012 at 08:22 pm
Wayne, as I already stated that NYS pension plans are fully funded. When you said "Pension plans are underfunded - there's not enough money to cover future obligations - which is why taxpayers are being forced to pony up more," thats not true. The money is there for every single person who is due for a pension. There is enough to cover all teachers who are currently working until retirement. The actuarial numbers say they need more because of the last couple of years (Wall Street) tanked everyone. When the market comes back, locals will again not have to contribute a single thing for years, as the had not in the past. It is NYS law that the fund be fully funded (its currently 98% because of the hit). There are a lot of distortions about this out there. Most of the fund makes it money in profits from investments (83%). The tax cap with unfunded new tests are going to really hurt education. I feel horrible for what the kids are going to have to go through.
Wayne Smith February 29, 2012 at 08:35 pm
Sorry, not buying it. What the actuarial numbers are saying is that pensions are underfunded, which is why local school districts and other government entities are having to contibute more. In fact, most projections show that schools will have to more than triple their contributions in the next five years. If they really were fully funded, by defintion, school districts and taxpayers wouldn't have to make additional contributions.
Lorraine DeVita February 29, 2012 at 08:48 pm
SS teacher do i have this right? Acording to your information-
The bottom line is: the Teachers pension fund is loaded up to 98% the amount We pay into the fund via taxes is a measely 2% to make up the difference and when the fund is BACK to 100% we will have to pay nothing? HMMMMM does that mean we are paying ONLY 2% NOW? please share with me WHERE you received this information. Maybe I am not comprehending correctly and need to read it for myself.
Ready to Move February 29, 2012 at 09:52 pm
Wayne, your are completely correct. Lorraine, you need to run for board and get on this stuff in an official capacity.
SSTeacher is a teacher, he is part of the brain washed elitist who actually believe they are not part of a sub culture that is pampered and over paid. You need to get a job in the private sector. Off 4 months a year. J O K E . Wall Street has recovered fully. The GREEDY Teachers Union will break this town yet. WATCH.
An tUasal Airgead February 29, 2012 at 09:57 pm
Seaford Teacher Pension Contributions 2010 -2013
http://longisland.newsday.com/templates/simpleDB/?pid=374&brand=newsday&fieldSelect-Retirement_system=Teachers&q=seaford 138 Districts, Teacher Pensions Contributions 2010 -2013 http://longisland.newsday.com/templates/simpleDB/?pid=374&brand=newsday&fieldSelect-Retirement_system=Teachers&q=
An tUasal Airgead February 29, 2012 at 10:25 pm
Public Pensions Funding Corporate Raiders of Private Sector
Public pension funds “have been the investors that have really fueled private equity’s rise,” said Steven Davidoff, a professor of law and finance at Ohio State University’s Moritz College of Law in Columbus, Ohio. “For those people who complain about private equity, the money is really coming from pension funds.” Private equity firms buy companies and seek to trim costs, improve operations, boost profits and resell them. The takeovers are typically financed by debt taken on by the purchased companies. Fulton Mayor Ronald Woodward, a Republican, said the Birds Eye takeover has devastated his town, adding that he is troubled to learn that New York pension money helped finance the acquisition. “Isn’t that a slap in the face to the people in Fulton that are losing their jobs and paying the salaries of those union workers and they’re using their investments there,” Mr. Woodward said. “It’s like biting the hand that feeds you.” http://www.pionline.com/article/20120223/REG/120229952/ny-pension-funds-find-private-equity-controversy-as-blackstone-cuts-jobs
Lorraine DeVita March 1, 2012 at 12:19 am
SS teacher<
I am confused, your explaination of the pension funding and the above information referenced by An tUasal Airgead are a weeeeeeee bit different. So I am asking you to cite your reference material so we can compare. If however you choose to ignore this request I will completely understand as will others. It is just at this point we need to undestand where information is coming from and have the ability to verify it to insure everyone is on the same page. Right now it seems we are in different BOOKs. Also understand this isnt about you OR meor about individual Teachers this is about existing and future financial issues that need to be addressed with some semblence of sanity that is fair and equitable for ALL. No one wants to yank the retirement rug out from anyone else, what is needed is an indepth look to see what changes can be made to insure one side doesnt go bankrupt and the other doesnt get the shaft.
Lorraine DeVita March 1, 2012 at 03:10 pm
SS- In the neck of the woods where I grew up and went to school,(Westchester County) My teachers pounded it in to heads when doing research you always under penalty of academic death research and cite SEVERAL different and in some cases opposing sources of information & perspective to gain insite from both sides in order to formulate & present a well researched unbiased paper. Citing My New York State Teachers Retirement Service "Serving New York Educators Since 1921" does not exactly give me an unbiased balanced perspective nor the warm fuzzies.
Peter Catania March 2, 2012 at 02:00 pm
Long Islands Clock is Ticking
watch this video of the Tax problems on Long Island, it nails it http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u58FPkmejoc&feature=player_embedded

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