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South Side High School in Rockville Centre is among the best on Long Island, according to new rankings. (Patch file photo)
breetai3 April 24, 2014 at 04:57 pm
Commack is not on the list because US News has a horrible rating system whereby they take theRead More highest participation in either IB or AP and based the rankings off of that. Since Commack has an equal mixture of students taking both types of course the participation rate is not that high in one of them. So say if one district only offers AP, and 80% participate they get huge ranks. But since Commack has BOTh systems, say 41% participate in IB and 40% do AP, U.S. News only considers the 41% in IB in their rankings. It is truly a dreadful ranking system that punishes districts for having a diverse curriculum and giving the students more choices on college level course.
rich p April 24, 2014 at 05:57 pm
Lists are nice, but it does not matter if you are 1 on the list or 30 on the list. Most schools onRead More long island are ok. but dont fool yourselves look at the rest of the country , there are plenty of other highschools not on this list that are turning out well educated people that go to the same colleges as long island students go to. Yes those students might actually out perform our long island hs students. Learning is an individual task. education also helps with success but it is not the end all be all.
Christopher Wendt April 24, 2014 at 07:24 pm
@ Brookhavenconfucius re: "...misleading statements, DO NOTHING to assuage Tax Payers, thatRead More there money has been, largely wasted." Accepting your premise then, a district with a budget of $80 Million would have wasted at least $40 million. So, what, of the supposedly wasted spending would you have eliminated?
DebinRye April 24, 2014 at 08:13 am
Hmmm . . . I keep hearing paranoia from left and right, but how are we to truly evaluate theRead More education we are paying for? Like so many issues that confront us today, there is no light; only heat. No method will be perfect. And, no disrespect intended, but I'm not sure parents are best situated to evaluate the efficacy of their children's education. After all, most were products of the very system we so desperately need to improve. We need SOME objective measure. Any ideas?
TJ Eckleburg April 24, 2014 at 04:55 pm
Well, Bob. Let me correct you. Paranoid Psycho Theresa Flora did NOT "call me out." IRead More called her out. Please keep track.
eatingdogfood April 24, 2014 at 07:10 pm
No, Eckleburg you called names, she called you out. Go away now.
Billy Joel applauded and smiled during at the “The River of Dreams: A Billy Joel Tribute Concert” in Glen Cove. Credit: Glen Cove School District
loving lindy April 11, 2014 at 03:38 pm
I have not been on the Patch in some time and see this nice story about Billy Joel and of courseRead More there is a negative comment by "Get Off My Lawn." Why can't you just say nothing. Why need to comment. This is why no one reads the Patch anymore. Everyone gets so tired of the toxic people. I agree with Carol H. Enough already. Nicely done Billy! Now I am officially done with this on-line news thread. So please Get Off My Lawn, educate us all how "you are entitled to your opinion." No one cares!
teena April 11, 2014 at 07:05 pm
so sick of hearing everyone blaming the parents. the show ended, the parents were all leaving (toRead More get back to work!) and billy joel was sitting right by the exit. all the parents had to pass him. the 'mob' that bothered him for autographs was teachers who brought out their soloist along with their parents. he left because half the auditorium was leaving!
Gabe Gonsalves April 14, 2014 at 10:34 am
Billy Joel is a class act.......I know him from my younger days. The man is true to his roots.
The Nassau County Science Competition is set for June 8. Credit: Center for Science Teaching and Learning
Christopher Wendt April 10, 2014 at 07:32 am
Very strange that the names of the officers of the Center for Science Teaching and Learning (an IRSRead More 501C3 organization in RVC) cannot be found anywhere. CSTL is running this competition. WHO ARE THEY? Let me know if anyone finds out. ----------------------------------------------------------------- My other question is, what does Nassau County have to do with education? The answer is, actually, nothing. Nor should they.
Cosmo April 10, 2014 at 08:48 am
It is another opportunity to put Mangano's name on something that he has nothing to do with.
Frank T April 10, 2014 at 09:11 am
An historic building was just demolished at Old Bethpage Restoration. Thank you Ed Mangano!
Photo: @EARizzo57 Twitter
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:51 pm
Liz, my point is a reality about home values. Not a stretch as you suggest. I know a principal whoRead More invited local realtors in for open houses to demonstrate how well the school was doing to offset the negative publicity portrayed by media. I saw firsthand parents who relocated to another school based on test scores. Parents don't trust realtors, they look on Greatschools.com and see a test score. Newspapers and news outlets report test scores, they don't take the time to break down why they schools score low let alone why they score high. Most parents won't spend the time to interview or do a walkthrough for a public school before attending.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 10:53 pm
Liz, not to beat a dead horse, do your own research about test scores and home values. I think youRead More will be convinced.
Irish Rover April 9, 2014 at 11:18 pm
Disgusted, you are talking about teacher union leadership. IMO Tenure and teacher unions are killingRead More the quality of American education. Be accountable or get out of the profession.
Rob April 1, 2014 at 01:22 pm
Very insightful article...I believe this is whats known as trolling. My interaction with the PatchRead More is really waning. Since when is it acceptable to upload pictures of twitter posts and call it journalism?
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 01:40 pm
And it was BECASUE of the warm fuzzy teacher that we spent hundreds of dollars monthly for tutors.Read More I would send her a belated bill if she is still around..
yeahitzme April 6, 2014 at 02:18 pm
We all agree what a vital impact teachers have on their students and all of our children...whoRead More surely are the future of society. We all want what is best for all and there is no one exact road or method to get there...adapting and being flexible depending on any situation is a skill that that garners best results...finding what works and building upon that will most likely have positive results. And yes...mushy is definately not the desired method of instruction and yes...those tutoring bills can add up quite fast with the going rate...Unfortunately...my child had one of those no nonsense teachers and that was the subject I was paying those tutors for...A child that shuts down...can't learn...that approach did not work for them. I am sure there is a comfortable middle ground where both firm and supportive instruction can coexist successfully for both teacher and student. I think it comes down to a respect from and for the teacher! We all know it only takes a short moment to tear something down that may have taken years to build up....Teaching is not easy in any regard...but the rewards are great...as Marion accidentally found out on Facebook when feedback from long past students confirmed...she had gotten things "right" in her instruction along the way... Great effort from all involved is required to achieve success in most cases..albeit that natural prodigy genius that is very rare to come by! May we ALL be successful...and joyful...whichever road we choose!
Lorraine DeVita April 6, 2014 at 05:52 pm
Excellent points! Going too far in either direction has consequences...mostly negative. RespectRead More to me must be earned or at the very least in some cases retained , title or position, alphabet soup before or after a name , does not automatically grant respect. The PERSON earns the respect ...... ie- .the OFFICE of the president deserves respect despite WHO is sitting in the chair, the Person who is IN the job needs to earn the respect OF the title.
Lorraine DeVita April 11, 2014 at 01:55 pm
The majority of LI parents aren't interested in STEM. It doesn't phase them, doesn't interestRead More them, probably have no clue what it is nor do they care to learn.... only interested in SPORTS- It seems we are going to have a preponderance of unemployed "wanna be" HS super star sports participants who haven't yet grasped the concept nor do they or their parents comprehend that STEM should be their objective not scoring a goal..
Lorraine DeVita April 11, 2014 at 01:57 pm
Nor do they understand that the two needn't be mutually exclusive.....
New York State Education Commissioner Dr. John King fielded angry questions and comments at a Common Core forum on Long Island in 2013.
Commack Resident March 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
My son is a top student in 4th grade. He easily passed the new Common Core State ELA and Math testsRead More last year. This year, he is NOT taking them. I have no doubt he would "pass" again, but, really, is there any real value to passing a meaningless test? He consistently earns top scores on all classroom exams. He reads at an 8th grade level. He has nothing to prove, and I will not allow my 9 year old child to sit through more than 12 hours of tests to prove what we already know...he can read, write and do math at, at least, a 4th grade level. It is not kids like my son that I am concerned about. Other children are the ones hurt most by these tests. Like the little boy we know, who is one of the best math students in his grade, yet gets pulled from the classroom to attend mandatory remedial math instruction because of poor performance on last year's state tests. No one- not his parents, his teacher, or the remedial instructor-thinks this boy needs remedial instruction. Yet, it is mandatory because of a poorly written, ambiguous exam, that failed to test the concepts that the children were taught in the classroom. Many, many students are in similar situations. I am not against standardized tests in general. I allowed my son to take them last year and he performed well. Now that I realize how utterly meaningless the state tests are in their current form, and also just how many hours these poor little children are forced to sit through to take them, I am vehemently opposed to them. We have notified the school, in advance, of our decision to refuse the tests this year. I urge all parents to do the same. We will continue to refuse the tests every year, until the subject matter being tested actually has a real relationship to what the kids are being taught in the classroom, and until the 12 hour-long evaluation is reduced to a more reasonable length, one that 8 and 9 year olds can actually be expected to sit still and concentrate for.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm
http://www.usnews.com/opinion/articles/2014/03/17/how-common-core-standards-kill-creative-teaching
Case closed April 23, 2014 at 08:01 pm
Parents are being told to attend tutoring for common core so they may help their children. If theRead More wheel ain't broke Stop trying to fix it. Case closed
Protesters stand outside of the News 12 studio in Woodbury on Monday to demand Gov. Andrew Cuomo to fix or scrap the controversial new Common Core curriculum. Credit: Monica Gleberman
Aidan April 13, 2014 at 05:56 am
Just trying to educate you … over and over again.
David April 13, 2014 at 02:18 pm
@Elsie I'll grant that it's a hard question for second grade. Students can show divisibility byRead More showing 12 being split into 4 equal parts, and again into 6 equal parts, with a diagram, but I think few second graders would get this right. Any second grader who gets this right is showing unusual mathematical talent, or at least unusual advancement in meeting common core standards. Don't we want to allow such unusual talent to be recognized? Especially in elementary grades these days, there seems so little opportunity for it these days.
Elsie April 18, 2014 at 04:23 pm
@David -- Talent should be recognized by differentiating instruction. Those 2nd graders who can doRead More this should, those who can't should be taught at a level that is more developmentally appropriate for them. There is very little room for enriching those students who should be or helping those students who need it using the Engage NY Modules. I am not a teacher but I have looked at the NY modules and the CC standards. I believe that teachers can address CC standards without the developmental inappropriateness of the NY requirements.
brad livingston February 5, 2014 at 08:50 am
SEAFORD opening on a two hour delay...LOL....better charge the no show teachers with a snow dayRead More excussal.........love to see who shows so they can be publically thanked for dedication and those that stayed in bed charged a day.
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concerned resident February 3, 2014 at 07:55 am
levittown schools are open!!! this is a joke every dist. is closed around us- i hope they have aRead More good plan to get the kids home safe!!!!!!!!
elizabeth baptiste February 3, 2014 at 09:10 am
How much snow is expected? So much for an early spring.
Karen February 3, 2014 at 10:33 am
Enough winter snow! Where's Global Warming when we want it back on a temporary basis?
EJB February 2, 2014 at 05:17 pm
A Teacher, and therein lies the answer to many of the questions that those who protest CC are notRead More seeing. Thanks for your response to my question - it was stataed as a method of sparking information to those who might need it - if only they will read and accept it. I am the parent of 3 teachers in 3 different districts. I understand how this applies and how it works. One other point that I would like to mention is that "my teachers" have had a number of former students come back to them who are presently in college pursuing teaching, or out doing their student teaching, or who have teaching positions. They all come back to say thanks. Teachers have the opportunity to make such a wonderful impact.
Christopher Wendt February 3, 2014 at 11:31 am
@A Teacher & @Rob, re: "the ELA and mathematics modules are NOT MANDATED.... Some districtsRead More may opt to implement them.... Some may choose to use some of the modules but not others. Some may simply use them as resources on which to model their own curriculum.... In the end, it's up to each individual district." Thus stated, leaving me to wonder how and where there even is any such thing as a "Common Core", other than for the almighty Assessments? ............................................................................................. Make your own curriculum, use our curriculum, maybe a little of each? This reminds me of a management training exercise I experienced long ago: bowling with a dark drapery hung across the lane, about half way to the pins, and a supervisor stationed next to the drapery. As each person took his turn bowling, rolling his ball through (under) the drapery, the Supervisor standing there shook his head and told the bowler how bad he/she did, and which pins were left standing. Occasionally, there was a "Good job - Strike!", but the self-satisfaction was lost even from bowling strikes, and the impetus to compete and succeed no longer existed after bowling one line.
Lorraine DeVita February 4, 2014 at 01:19 pm
I have sat here and read every post and I have come to the conclusion these parents who are moaningRead More the most that its to hard its to stressful its too much for their little prodigy simply need to grasp the concept that LIFE is hard, stressful and their children if continually pampered and protected from the realities of life will struggle on so many levels as they get older. Parents need to understand they have been successfully and masterfully played and manipulated by the unions and those marginal teachers who fear performance reviews. The ones who are borderline or stuck in their antiquated ways who fear change and accountability. This is NOT about the student and CC, they are a smoke screen for the REAL issue .. this is SOLELY the "marginal or sub par" educator AND administrator being held accountable for job performance. Gullible is amusing to watch.. especially when they play to parents fears. there is a reason critical thinking is being implemented... just take a look at the complaining parents .who have bought the Brooklyn bridge hook line and sinker. . . lol..
Christopher Wendt January 14, 2014 at 10:50 am
That the high school and middle school would both be affected by a transformer problem makes sense.Read More However, Mandalay is far removed from the HS/MS complex, and on the opposite side of WS Parkway, which does not make sense for their having been affected by the same event as the HS/MS.
Lorraine DeVita January 14, 2014 at 11:24 am
Did any of the surrounding homes lose power or just the schools.
Chris Wendt January 8, 2014 at 12:05 pm
This is excellent news! Congratulations!
Verlia M. Brown January 8, 2014 at 12:39 pm
Congrats to Jaclyn Onufrey. Education is the foundation to all future accomplishments. May otherRead More students follow their dreams. Good luck in the finals. Verlia M Brown, MA, RN, BC
Christopher Wendt January 9, 2014 at 01:09 pm
Expanded coverage of this story now available at:Read More http://wantagh.patch.com/groups/chris-wendts-blog/p/jaclyn-onufrey--intel-semifinalist.... More about the project.... More about Jaclyn Onufrey....
Cathy Ferrara-Bennici January 6, 2014 at 05:55 pm
Situations rectified sadly is a half truth..
Lorraine DeVita January 6, 2014 at 09:12 pm
Wondering how many other local neighboring SD's found themselves in the same situation? WasRead More Atlantic part of the whole BOCES busing process / system? If so who was the rocket scientist at BOCES who failed to do their due diligence? If not BOCEs then who was the rocket scientist in Seaford who failed to do their due diligence?
Christopher Wendt January 6, 2014 at 02:29 pm
Protests would be much more effective if NYSED would publish the 2012-13 School & DistrictRead More Report Cards. Six full months have elapsed since the end of the last school year, but no public report card data has been published. I personally believe that publishing the 2012-13 school and district report cards would be damning to the Common Core. ...................................................................................................... I am not against the Common Core Concept, per se, but I sincerely believe that Commissioner King and Regents Chancellor Tisch should resign or be fired, for their ham-handed handling of the CC Assessments last spring, two full years before they should have been implemented.
A Teacher January 7, 2014 at 06:37 am
I will not be in attendance. I do not have a problem with raising the academic standards in ourRead More schools, including the one in which I work. Further, to suggest that the assessments were administered without proper preparation is more of a comment on the lack of educational leadership than a comment on the standards themselves. I can tell you and show you that your local teachers were made aware that these changes were coming 3 years ago, and we were supplied with the standards to which we were supposed to align our curricula. Some did and some refused, claiming that CC was just another buzzword that would pass. Finally, I wish the author of this article would get the phrasing correct. There is no government-written Common Core curriculum. There are standards to which each district is supposed to align their own locally written curricula.
A Teacher January 7, 2014 at 06:41 am
Correction- We were introduced to the CC standards 4 years ago, 3 years before the first CCRead More assessments were administered.